Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-(
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texte = If you need someone with an iPhone to test it, let me=20 know. >I'm using this code right now. >I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it=20 >seems to work for most smart phones I've tested....=20 >Although it's not tested on the iPhone. > >[text]accept=3D[GETMIMEHEADER name=3DAccept][/text] >[text]celldetected=3D[/text] >[showif [url][accept][/url]=3D[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] > [text]wapagent=3DT[/text] >[/showif] >[showif [wapagent]=3DT] > [text]celldetected=3DT[/text] >[/showif] >[showif [celldetected]=3DT] > [redirect url=3D/mobi/index.tpl] >[/showif] > >Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com >------------------------------by Psi Prime------- >Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 >Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 >Service: 973.413.8213 >Training: 973.413.8214 >Fax: 973.413.8217 > >http://www.jewelerwebsites.com >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc >http://www.psiprime.com > > > >Rob wrote: >> Dan, >> >> I just got involved due to a technical request, and=20 >>haven't had much=20 >> to do with the site involved. I think its just being=20 >>handled=20 >> generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer=20 >>blackberry's=20 >> and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older=20 >>styles a lot of=20 >> positional elements are off. It looks like its just set=20 >>to a standard=20 >> width of 320. I know the person working on it is on this=20 >>list, and its=20 >> up to him if he wishes to expand on it more. >> >> The detection was actually the easy part, and even=20 >>easier now with the=20 >> list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and=20 >>detect size as=20 >> well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump=20 >>them all in,=20 >> and months to find them all. With the shelf live of must=20 >>phones, I=20 >> think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here is a=20 >>link to the=20 >> file I used, but for the most part, I went thru some of=20 >>the server=20 >> logs for the site involved, as the list didn't seem up=20 >>to date. I=20 >> haven't even heard of half these things.... >> >> http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip >> >> More info, as well as files, at this link: >> http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-di= scussion-index/=20 >> >> >> And what I'm currently using is this: >> --------------- >> [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Samsung")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Casio")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "T-Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket=20 >> PC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera=20 >> Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Cingular")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows=20 >> CE")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content=20 >> Viewer")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML=20 >> Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Nokia")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera=20 >> 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Reqwirelessweb")] >> [Then][REDIRECT url=3Dmobile/index.html][/Then] >> [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its=20 >>self [/Else] >> [/if] >> ------------------- >> >> Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization=20 >>for this area=20 >> in that industry. ... :-( >> >> Rob >> >> >> On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> Rob, >>> >>> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are=20 >>>handling=20 >>> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not=20 >>>yet=20 >>> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices=20 >>>as I can so=20 >>> I can serve mobile-friendly content. >>> >>> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source (=20 >>> http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ ) but it contains a lot of=20 >>>irrelevant=20 >>> (for my purposes) data and would require what appears to=20 >>>be a great=20 >>> deal of work and constant upkeep, and/or >>> >>> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script.=20 >>>Haven't tried it.=20 >>> Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do=20 >>>things via WebDNA. >>> >>> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size=20 >>>is under,=20 >>> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that=20 >>>won't always work=20 >>> since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >>> >>> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most=20 >>>popular=20 >>> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them=20 >>>all. It would=20 >>> be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard=20 >>>descriptor to=20 >>> their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or=20 >>>somethinglike that.=20 >>> Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >>> >>> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this=20 >>>with a=20 >>> single line of code" response ** >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >>> Rob
wrote: >>>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>>> Rob >>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead=20 >>>>>>of my =20 >>>>>> own... got to used to working alone before the revival=20 >>>>>>.. ;-) >>>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>>> >>>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>>> >>>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Donovan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>> VP >>>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>>to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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If you need someone with an iPhone to test it, let me=20 know. >I'm using this code right now. >I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it=20 >seems to work for most smart phones I've tested....=20 >Although it's not tested on the iPhone. > >[text]accept=3D[GETMIMEHEADER name=3DAccept][/text] >[text]celldetected=3D[/text] >[showif [url][accept][/url]=3D[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] > [text]wapagent=3DT[/text] >[/showif] >[showif [wapagent]=3DT] > [text]celldetected=3DT[/text] >[/showif] >[showif [celldetected]=3DT] > [redirect url=3D/mobi/index.tpl] >[/showif] > >Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com >------------------------------by Psi Prime------- >Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 >Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 >Service: 973.413.8213 >Training: 973.413.8214 >Fax: 973.413.8217 > >http://www.jewelerwebsites.com >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc >http://www.psiprime.com > > > >Rob wrote: >> Dan, >> >> I just got involved due to a technical request, and=20 >>haven't had much=20 >> to do with the site involved. I think its just being=20 >>handled=20 >> generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer=20 >>blackberry's=20 >> and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older=20 >>styles a lot of=20 >> positional elements are off. It looks like its just set=20 >>to a standard=20 >> width of 320. I know the person working on it is on this=20 >>list, and its=20 >> up to him if he wishes to expand on it more. >> >> The detection was actually the easy part, and even=20 >>easier now with the=20 >> list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and=20 >>detect size as=20 >> well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump=20 >>them all in,=20 >> and months to find them all. With the shelf live of must=20 >>phones, I=20 >> think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here is a=20 >>link to the=20 >> file I used, but for the most part, I went thru some of=20 >>the server=20 >> logs for the site involved, as the list didn't seem up=20 >>to date. I=20 >> haven't even heard of half these things.... >> >> http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip >> >> More info, as well as files, at this link: >> http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-di= scussion-index/=20 >> >> >> And what I'm currently using is this: >> --------------- >> [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Samsung")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Casio")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "T-Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket=20 >> PC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera=20 >> Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Cingular")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows=20 >> CE")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content=20 >> Viewer")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML=20 >> Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Nokia")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >> "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera=20 >> 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Reqwirelessweb")] >> [Then][REDIRECT url=3Dmobile/index.html][/Then] >> [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its=20 >>self [/Else] >> [/if] >> ------------------- >> >> Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization=20 >>for this area=20 >> in that industry. ... :-( >> >> Rob >> >> >> On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> Rob, >>> >>> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are=20 >>>handling=20 >>> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not=20 >>>yet=20 >>> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices=20 >>>as I can so=20 >>> I can serve mobile-friendly content. >>> >>> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source (=20 >>> http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ ) but it contains a lot of=20 >>>irrelevant=20 >>> (for my purposes) data and would require what appears to=20 >>>be a great=20 >>> deal of work and constant upkeep, and/or >>> >>> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script.=20 >>>Haven't tried it.=20 >>> Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do=20 >>>things via WebDNA. >>> >>> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size=20 >>>is under,=20 >>> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that=20 >>>won't always work=20 >>> since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >>> >>> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most=20 >>>popular=20 >>> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them=20 >>>all. It would=20 >>> be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard=20 >>>descriptor to=20 >>> their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or=20 >>>somethinglike that.=20 >>> Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >>> >>> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this=20 >>>with a=20 >>> single line of code" response ** >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >>> Rob wrote: >>>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>>> Rob >>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead=20 >>>>>>of my =20 >>>>>> own... got to used to working alone before the revival=20 >>>>>>.. ;-) >>>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>>> >>>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>>> >>>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Donovan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>> VP >>>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>>to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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