Re: [WebDNA] Use of MySQL with WebDNA
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2010
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texte = I hadn't thought of this, but now that I think of it we also have a = problem with large, heavy traffic, heavy write DBs On an ecommerce site we run, one particular db currently stands at = 58,000 records (just over 1Mb) and it has started to corrupt records in = the last 4-6 months. Obviously this is something that tends not to = happen with MySQL. High traffic large databases with little writing do just fine, as do = high traffic smaller DBs with lots of writing. We have a record of all = dispatched items that gets written to just a few hundred times a day. = This stands at 167,000 records and 1.2Mb and is just fine. Meanwhile, with CakePHP and MySQL we have large DBs (250,000+) that are = written to 1,000+ times per day with no corruption. It's a problem that we can handle at the moment, by occasionally running = a first aid script, but I can't imagine that in 6-12 months we are going = to be running WebDNA in the same format as we do now. TC On 28 Sep 2010, at 14:16, Govinda wrote: > Hi Chris! :-) >=20 > I have not used MySQL (or other external db) outside of PHP (not yet = with webdna), but I do not see how webdna's future can get around really = strong support of that. Of course it is a royal pain to have to code = outside of webdna's beautiful internal db system, but when the db's get = too large, then it seems just too risky to not have options. Maybe in = some cases it is not even just that webdna could not handle a large db, = but that maybe their is just not enough RAM allotted in some setups. I = have not read much of the articles around the current state of MySQL, = but there is simply so much of it out there, that for all I know it is = still the best option as backup format. (?) >=20 > Maybe my very partial knowledge here will prove my lack of thorough = familiarity with the range of server-side considerations, but at least = it will add to getting discussion going. >=20 > -Govinda >=20 > On Sep 28, 2010, at 8:35 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 >> Good morning everyone! >>=20 >> this email is for WebDNA users working with MySQL. We would like to = know how many of you need MySQL support and the reason why you prefer = using MySQL instead of the internal database system. >> As you know, MySQL now belongs to Oracle with license restrictions = and we were thinking, in case external database support is necessary, if = a better/faster ODBC support woud not be a more universal idea. We also = gave SQLite a thought, but despite its qualities, the internal WebDNA = database system is more powerful. >>=20 >> This is not a trivial matter, so we will listen to everyone. >>=20 >> thank you! >>=20 >> - chris--------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list
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I hadn't thought of this, but now that I think of it we also have a = problem with large, heavy traffic, heavy write DBs On an ecommerce site we run, one particular db currently stands at = 58,000 records (just over 1Mb) and it has started to corrupt records in = the last 4-6 months. Obviously this is something that tends not to = happen with MySQL. High traffic large databases with little writing do just fine, as do = high traffic smaller DBs with lots of writing. We have a record of all = dispatched items that gets written to just a few hundred times a day. = This stands at 167,000 records and 1.2Mb and is just fine. Meanwhile, with CakePHP and MySQL we have large DBs (250,000+) that are = written to 1,000+ times per day with no corruption. It's a problem that we can handle at the moment, by occasionally running = a first aid script, but I can't imagine that in 6-12 months we are going = to be running WebDNA in the same format as we do now. TC On 28 Sep 2010, at 14:16, Govinda wrote: > Hi Chris! :-) >=20 > I have not used MySQL (or other external db) outside of PHP (not yet = with webdna), but I do not see how webdna's future can get around really = strong support of that. Of course it is a royal pain to have to code = outside of webdna's beautiful internal db system, but when the db's get = too large, then it seems just too risky to not have options. Maybe in = some cases it is not even just that webdna could not handle a large db, = but that maybe their is just not enough RAM allotted in some setups. I = have not read much of the articles around the current state of MySQL, = but there is simply so much of it out there, that for all I know it is = still the best option as backup format. (?) >=20 > Maybe my very partial knowledge here will prove my lack of thorough = familiarity with the range of server-side considerations, but at least = it will add to getting discussion going. >=20 > -Govinda >=20 > On Sep 28, 2010, at 8:35 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 >> Good morning everyone! >>=20 >> this email is for WebDNA users working with MySQL. We would like to = know how many of you need MySQL support and the reason why you prefer = using MySQL instead of the internal database system. >> As you know, MySQL now belongs to Oracle with license restrictions = and we were thinking, in case external database support is necessary, if = a better/faster ODBC support woud not be a more universal idea. We also = gave SQLite a thought, but despite its qualities, the internal WebDNA = database system is more powerful. >>=20 >> This is not a trivial matter, so we will listen to everyone. >>=20 >> thank you! >>=20 >> - chris--------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > ------------ > Govinda > govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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