Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app

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2013


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 110918
interpreted = N
texte = --Apple-Mail=_1A4DD207-86F1-4942-9797-80EB6BDF2D92 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 For me, I could easily get $75 - $100 per customer. =20 Plus if I could install it on their local server, rather than a stand = alone PC. I could justify a bit more for each user. 1-5 users, 6-10 = something like that would work. =20 Or could I install it on a stand alone pc and share it with others on = the local network? Then I would not have to deal with the network = manager at all. :)=20 frank On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Dan Strong wrote: > How much would you be willing to pay for that? >=20 > -Dan >=20 >=20 > Sent from phone. >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: Steve Graham=20 > Date:11/29/2013 11:09 AM (GMT-08:00)=20 > To: talk@webdna.us=20 > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app=20 >=20 > Not simple like one-click installer. >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Strong = wrote: > Why not run a WebDNA install inside of a Virtual box image? >=20 > -Dan >=20 >=20 > Sent from phone. >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: "C. Frank Wolfe"=20 > Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00)=20 > To: talk@webdna.us=20 > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app=20 >=20 > I vote single binary as well. Looks like there is some interest. =20 >=20 > Licensing would have to still phone home I guess to verify serial = number as I think Web Catalog did. >=20 > It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s = that some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them = I have to install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network = server, and then I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets = into too many issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and = don=92t want to buy what they don=92t understand. If I say, well I just = have to install one app, it=92s easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like = installing Office. That they understand. >=20 > Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as well. = Maybe you could sell licenses by number of users? >=20 > These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA developers with = large clients would not use this, so I think it opens up a market for = smaller businesses. If a particular application needs PHP I guess that = is a reason to say you need to have a Cloud based solution. But there = are so many things that can be done just with WebDNA alone it would = certainly open up my markets. >=20 > Thanks for considering. >=20 > Frank >=20 > On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 > > Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web = server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver = installation? > >=20 > >=20 > > - chris > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe = wrote: > >=20 > >> Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in = Hawaii), does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a = runtime version or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single = computer? I have clients that I could do so much with, but they won=92t = put data on the internet even with a secure server. > >>=20 > >> I supposed it would have to have a little web server built in, but = it would be so much easier than convincing some of these companies to = install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box just for = WebDNA. A network version would be even better, and I would pay for = those each and every time and bill the client. One price for a single = computer, more for the network version. > >>=20 > >> Christophe/Donovan? > >>=20 > >> Hopefully, > >>=20 > >> Frank > >>=20 > >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.usy> --Apple-Mail=_1A4DD207-86F1-4942-9797-80EB6BDF2D92 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 For = me, I could easily get $75 - $100 per customer. =  

Plus if I could install it on their local = server, rather than a stand alone PC. I could justify a bit more for = each user. 1-5 users, 6-10 something like that would work. =  

Or could I install it on a stand alone = pc and share it with others on the local network? Then I would not have = to deal with the network manager at all. = :) 


frank

<= div>On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> = wrote:

How much would you be willing to pay for = that?

-Dan


Sent from phone.


-------- = Original message --------
From: Steve Graham =
Date:11/29/2013 11:09 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: talk@webdna.us
Subject: Re: = [WebDNA] WebDNA app

Not simple like one-click = installer.


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:
Why not run = a WebDNA install inside of a Virtual box = image?

-Dan


Sent from = phone.


-------- Original message = --------
From: "C. Frank Wolfe"
Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM = (GMT-08:00)
To: talk@webdna.us=
Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app

I = vote single binary as well.  Looks like there is some = interest. 

Licensing would have to still phone home I guess = to verify serial number as I think Web Catalog did.

It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s = that some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them = I have to install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network = server, and then I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets = into too many issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and = don=92t want to buy what they don=92t understand.  If I say, well I = just have to install one app, it=92s easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like = installing Office. That they understand.

Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as = well.  Maybe you could sell licenses by number of = users?

These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA = developers with large clients would not use this, so I think it opens up = a market for smaller businesses.  If a particular application needs = PHP I guess that is a reason to say you need to have a Cloud based = solution. But there are so many things that can be done just with WebDNA = alone it would certainly open up my markets.

Thanks for considering.

Frank

On= Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

> = Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web = server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver = installation?
>
>
> - chris
>
>
>
> On Nov = 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe <frank@cwolfe.com> wrote:
>
>> = Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in = Hawaii), does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a = runtime version or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single = computer?  I have clients that I could do so much with, but they = won=92t put data on the internet even with a secure server.
>>
>> I supposed it would have to have a little web = server built in, but it would be so much easier than convincing some of = these companies to install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a = box just for WebDNA.  A network version would be even better, and I = would pay for those each and every time and bill the client.  One = price for a single computer, more for the network version.
>>
>> Christophe/Donovan?
>>
>> = Hopefully,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> = --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug = Reporting: support@webdna.us
> =


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--Apple-Mail=_1A4DD207-86F1-4942-9797-80EB6BDF2D92 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 For me, I could easily get $75 - $100 per customer. =20 Plus if I could install it on their local server, rather than a stand = alone PC. I could justify a bit more for each user. 1-5 users, 6-10 = something like that would work. =20 Or could I install it on a stand alone pc and share it with others on = the local network? Then I would not have to deal with the network = manager at all. :)=20 frank On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Dan Strong wrote: > How much would you be willing to pay for that? >=20 > -Dan >=20 >=20 > Sent from phone. >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: Steve Graham=20 > Date:11/29/2013 11:09 AM (GMT-08:00)=20 > To: talk@webdna.us=20 > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app=20 >=20 > Not simple like one-click installer. >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Strong = wrote: > Why not run a WebDNA install inside of a Virtual box image? >=20 > -Dan >=20 >=20 > Sent from phone. >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: "C. Frank Wolfe"=20 > Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00)=20 > To: talk@webdna.us=20 > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app=20 >=20 > I vote single binary as well. Looks like there is some interest. =20 >=20 > Licensing would have to still phone home I guess to verify serial = number as I think Web Catalog did. >=20 > It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s = that some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them = I have to install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network = server, and then I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets = into too many issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and = don=92t want to buy what they don=92t understand. If I say, well I just = have to install one app, it=92s easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like = installing Office. That they understand. >=20 > Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as well. = Maybe you could sell licenses by number of users? >=20 > These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA developers with = large clients would not use this, so I think it opens up a market for = smaller businesses. If a particular application needs PHP I guess that = is a reason to say you need to have a Cloud based solution. But there = are so many things that can be done just with WebDNA alone it would = certainly open up my markets. >=20 > Thanks for considering. >=20 > Frank >=20 > On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 > > Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web = server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver = installation? > >=20 > >=20 > > - chris > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe = wrote: > >=20 > >> Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in = Hawaii), does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a = runtime version or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single = computer? I have clients that I could do so much with, but they won=92t = put data on the internet even with a secure server. > >>=20 > >> I supposed it would have to have a little web server built in, but = it would be so much easier than convincing some of these companies to = install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box just for = WebDNA. A network version would be even better, and I would pay for = those each and every time and bill the client. One price for a single = computer, more for the network version. > >>=20 > >> Christophe/Donovan? > >>=20 > >> Hopefully, > >>=20 > >> Frank > >>=20 > >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.usy> --Apple-Mail=_1A4DD207-86F1-4942-9797-80EB6BDF2D92 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 For = me, I could easily get $75 - $100 per customer. =  

Plus if I could install it on their local = server, rather than a stand alone PC. I could justify a bit more for = each user. 1-5 users, 6-10 something like that would work. =  

Or could I install it on a stand alone = pc and share it with others on the local network? Then I would not have = to deal with the network manager at all. = :) 


frank

<= div>On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> = wrote:

How much would you be willing to pay for = that?

-Dan


Sent from phone.


-------- = Original message --------
From: Steve Graham =
Date:11/29/2013 11:09 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: talk@webdna.us
Subject: Re: = [WebDNA] WebDNA app

Not simple like one-click = installer.


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:
Why not run = a WebDNA install inside of a Virtual box = image?

-Dan


Sent from = phone.


-------- Original message = --------
From: "C. Frank Wolfe"
Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM = (GMT-08:00)
To: talk@webdna.us=
Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app

I = vote single binary as well.  Looks like there is some = interest. 

Licensing would have to still phone home I guess = to verify serial number as I think Web Catalog did.

It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s = that some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them = I have to install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network = server, and then I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets = into too many issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and = don=92t want to buy what they don=92t understand.  If I say, well I = just have to install one app, it=92s easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like = installing Office. That they understand.

Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as = well.  Maybe you could sell licenses by number of = users?

These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA = developers with large clients would not use this, so I think it opens up = a market for smaller businesses.  If a particular application needs = PHP I guess that is a reason to say you need to have a Cloud based = solution. But there are so many things that can be done just with WebDNA = alone it would certainly open up my markets.

Thanks for considering.

Frank

On= Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

> = Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web = server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver = installation?
>
>
> - chris
>
>
>
> On Nov = 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe <frank@cwolfe.com> wrote:
>
>> = Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in = Hawaii), does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a = runtime version or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single = computer?  I have clients that I could do so much with, but they = won=92t put data on the internet even with a secure server.
>>
>> I supposed it would have to have a little web = server built in, but it would be so much easier than convincing some of = these companies to install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a = box just for WebDNA.  A network version would be even better, and I = would pay for those each and every time and bill the client.  One = price for a single computer, more for the network version.
>>
>> Christophe/Donovan?
>>
>> = Hopefully,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> = --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug = Reporting: support@webdna.us
> =


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