Re: Car Database

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2002


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 44169
interpreted = N
texte = This is like amazon copyrighting their one-click. It is ridiculous.This information is available on dozens if not hundreds of other sites.I just mention KBB as they are a leader in this field.I am not trying to emulate KBB, thus I am not stepping on any copyrighted material. I am wanting to gather the standard data that goes with cars, based on makes/models/etc.It would take far to long to go to every dealer to gather this info.I am awaiting a response to KBB, I am sure it will come with a price tag. Which i respect as if i had compiled this list I would want compensation.So i was just looking to see if I had other options.----- Original Message ----- From: Alex McCombie To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Car Database > On 10/17/02 3:37 PM, Marc Kaiwi wrote: > > > It's not the actual data that's the problem. It's the fact that someone > > (KBB) has taken the time and effort to collect and organize the data > > and they DO have a right to protect it and keep people from simply > > copying their efforts. > > > > Simply ask them if you can electronically download the data and start > > from there. Better to ask first. Who knows, if it's mutually beneficial > > to do so they may be able to help you out more than you think. > > > > Good luck > > > > It is true that collections of non copyrighted information are in themselves > copyright-able. > > So listed pieces of information are usually not copyrighted, but listing > entire collections that another company/individual have compiled is a > definite copyright violation. > > Additionally, many sites list legal disclaimers for the use/access of their > data from their personally owned and operated web servers. > > I am afraid that like many other collections (weather info, maps, business > listings, etc) copyright laws will apply more often than not. > > Just thinking out loud. I would certainly consider securing permission > unless you feel you wouldn't get it which under authorship laws > automatically removes the mystery of copyright anyway. > > > My .02 > Alex > > > Alex J McCombie New World Media > Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 > 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 > Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com > > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Car Database (Alain Russell 2002)
  2. Re: Car Database (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
  3. Re: Car Database (Aaron Lynch 2002)
  4. Re: Car Database (Brian Burton 2002)
  5. Re: Car Database (Brian Burton 2002)
  6. Re: Car Database (Brian Burton 2002)
  7. Re: New Zealand [OT - was Car Database] (Andrew Simpson 2002)
  8. Re: New Zealand [OT - was Car Database] (Tim Robinson 2002)
  9. Re: New Zealand [OT - was Car Database] (Dan Strong 2002)
  10. Re: New Zealand [OT - was Car Database] (Andrew Simpson 2002)
  11. Re: New Zealand [OT - was Car Database] (Inkblot Media 2002)
  12. Re: Car Database (Gary Krockover 2002)
  13. Re: New Zealand [OT - was Car Database] (Alex McCombie 2002)
  14. Re: New Zealand [OT - was Car Database] (Alain Russell 2002)
  15. Re: Car Database (Inkblot Media 2002)
  16. Re: Car Database (John Peacock 2002)
  17. Re: Car Database (Rob Marquardt 2002)
  18. New Zealand [OT - was Car Database] (Dan Strong 2002)
  19. Re: Car Database - Imporant (Jeff Logan 2002)
  20. Re: Car Database (Inkblot Media 2002)
  21. Re: Car Database (Alain Russell 2002)
  22. Re: Car Database (Alex McCombie 2002)
  23. Re: Car Database (Dan Strong 2002)
  24. Re: Car Database (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  25. Re: Car Database (Inkblot Media 2002)
  26. Re: Car Database (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2002)
  27. Re: Car Database (Glenn Busbin 2002)
  28. Re: Car Database (Alex McCombie 2002)
  29. Re: Car Database (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2002)
  30. Re: Car Database (Alain Russell 2002)
  31. Re: Car Database (John Peacock 2002)
  32. Re: Car Database (Alain Russell 2002)
  33. Re: Car Database (Inkblot Media 2002)
  34. Re: Car Database (Alain Russell 2002)
  35. Re: Car Database (Alain Russell 2002)
  36. Re: Car Database (Andrew Simpson 2002)
  37. Re: Car Database (Inkblot Media 2002)
  38. Re: Car Database (John Peacock 2002)
  39. Re: Car Database (Inkblot Media 2002)
  40. Re: Car Database (Alain Russell 2002)
  41. Re: Car Database (Inkblot Media 2002)
  42. Re: Car Database (Alain Russell 2002)
  43. Re: Car Database (Inkblot Media 2002)
  44. Re: Car Database (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2002)
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This is like amazon copyrighting their one-click. It is ridiculous.This information is available on dozens if not hundreds of other sites.I just mention KBB as they are a leader in this field.I am not trying to emulate KBB, thus I am not stepping on any copyrighted material. I am wanting to gather the standard data that goes with cars, based on makes/models/etc.It would take far to long to go to every dealer to gather this info.I am awaiting a response to KBB, I am sure it will come with a price tag. Which i respect as if i had compiled this list I would want compensation.So i was just looking to see if I had other options.----- Original Message ----- From: Alex McCombie To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Car Database > On 10/17/02 3:37 PM, Marc Kaiwi wrote: > > > It's not the actual data that's the problem. It's the fact that someone > > (KBB) has taken the time and effort to collect and organize the data > > and they DO have a right to protect it and keep people from simply > > copying their efforts. > > > > Simply ask them if you can electronically download the data and start > > from there. Better to ask first. Who knows, if it's mutually beneficial > > to do so they may be able to help you out more than you think. > > > > Good luck > > > > It is true that collections of non copyrighted information are in themselves > copyright-able. > > So listed pieces of information are usually not copyrighted, but listing > entire collections that another company/individual have compiled is a > definite copyright violation. > > Additionally, many sites list legal disclaimers for the use/access of their > data from their personally owned and operated web servers. > > I am afraid that like many other collections (weather info, maps, business > listings, etc) copyright laws will apply more often than not. > > Just thinking out loud. I would certainly consider securing permission > unless you feel you wouldn't get it which under authorship laws > automatically removes the mystery of copyright anyway. > > > My .02 > Alex > > > Alex J McCombie New World Media > Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 > 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 > Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com > > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Inkblot Media

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