Re: Car Database
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2002
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 44170
interpreted = N
texte = If the information that you need is public knowledge, then I would imagine it doesn't much matter how you go about gathering it. You could go to the library, you could make hundreds of phone calls to dealers, you could contact individual manufacturers, etc. In the same way, if you are willing to go through this process of gathering data from the WWW, I don't think there would be an issue. Obviously your best bet would be to speak to your lawyer concerning the information.Besides, if Ken can run a sweatshop in the Philippines, surely you could save yourself some time by using your own set of skills. Just my two cents. =)-----Original Message----- From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Inkblot Media Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 5:09 PM To: WebCatalog Talk Subject: Re: Car DatabaseThis is like amazon copyrighting their one-click. It is ridiculous.This information is available on dozens if not hundreds of other sites.I just mention KBB as they are a leader in this field.I am not trying to emulate KBB, thus I am not stepping on any copyrighted material. I am wanting to gather the standard data that goes with cars, based on makes/models/etc.It would take far to long to go to every dealer to gather this info.I am awaiting a response to KBB, I am sure it will come with a price tag. Which i respect as if i had compiled this list I would want compensation.So i was just looking to see if I had other options.----- Original Message ----- From: Alex McCombie
To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Car Database > On 10/17/02 3:37 PM, Marc Kaiwi wrote: > > > It's not the actual data that's the problem. It's the fact that someone > > (KBB) has taken the time and effort to collect and organize the data > > and they DO have a right to protect it and keep people from simply > > copying their efforts. > > > > Simply ask them if you can electronically download the data and start > > from there. Better to ask first. Who knows, if it's mutually beneficial > > to do so they may be able to help you out more than you think. > > > > Good luck > > > > It is true that collections of non copyrighted information are in themselves > copyright-able. > > So listed pieces of information are usually not copyrighted, but listing > entire collections that another company/individual have compiled is a > definite copyright violation. > > Additionally, many sites list legal disclaimers for the use/access of their > data from their personally owned and operated web servers. > > I am afraid that like many other collections (weather info, maps, business > listings, etc) copyright laws will apply more often than not. > > Just thinking out loud. I would certainly consider securing permission > unless you feel you wouldn't get it which under authorship laws > automatically removes the mystery of copyright anyway. > > > My .02 > Alex > > > Alex J McCombie New World Media > Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 > 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 > Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com > > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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If the information that you need is public knowledge, then I would imagine it doesn't much matter how you go about gathering it. You could go to the library, you could make hundreds of phone calls to dealers, you could contact individual manufacturers, etc. In the same way, if you are willing to go through this process of gathering data from the WWW, I don't think there would be an issue. Obviously your best bet would be to speak to your lawyer concerning the information.Besides, if Ken can run a sweatshop in the Philippines, surely you could save yourself some time by using your own set of skills. Just my two cents. =)-----Original Message----- From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Inkblot Media Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 5:09 PM To: WebCatalog Talk Subject: Re: Car DatabaseThis is like amazon copyrighting their one-click. It is ridiculous.This information is available on dozens if not hundreds of other sites.I just mention KBB as they are a leader in this field.I am not trying to emulate KBB, thus I am not stepping on any copyrighted material. I am wanting to gather the standard data that goes with cars, based on makes/models/etc.It would take far to long to go to every dealer to gather this info.I am awaiting a response to KBB, I am sure it will come with a price tag. Which i respect as if i had compiled this list I would want compensation.So i was just looking to see if I had other options.----- Original Message ----- From: Alex McCombie To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Car Database > On 10/17/02 3:37 PM, Marc Kaiwi wrote: > > > It's not the actual data that's the problem. It's the fact that someone > > (KBB) has taken the time and effort to collect and organize the data > > and they DO have a right to protect it and keep people from simply > > copying their efforts. > > > > Simply ask them if you can electronically download the data and start > > from there. Better to ask first. Who knows, if it's mutually beneficial > > to do so they may be able to help you out more than you think. > > > > Good luck > > > > It is true that collections of non copyrighted information are in themselves > copyright-able. > > So listed pieces of information are usually not copyrighted, but listing > entire collections that another company/individual have compiled is a > definite copyright violation. > > Additionally, many sites list legal disclaimers for the use/access of their > data from their personally owned and operated web servers. > > I am afraid that like many other collections (weather info, maps, business > listings, etc) copyright laws will apply more often than not. > > Just thinking out loud. I would certainly consider securing permission > unless you feel you wouldn't get it which under authorship laws > automatically removes the mystery of copyright anyway. > > > My .02 > Alex > > > Alex J McCombie New World Media > Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 > 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 > Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com > > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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