Re: Car Database
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texte = On 10/17/02 4:08 PM, Inkblot Media
wrote:> This is like amazon copyrighting their one-click. It is ridiculous. Well, lets say that when a company (anyone) goes to some expense to collect and dispense information on the web, any copying of that data in such a way that was not intended by the authors is subject to this type of debate. Being one of those authors, I agree whole heartedly. So while I respect your opinion I don't agree that is either like the Amazon pursuit of patent nor ridiculous. > This information is available on dozens if not hundreds of other sites. And many their sources come with costs and most/all of their efforts come with investments.> I just mention KBB as they are a leader in this field. > > I am not trying to emulate KBB, thus I am not stepping on any copyrighted > material. I am wanting to gather the standard data that goes with cars, > based on makes/models/etc. Understood. This is why I think, as did others, that you needed to pursue permission from anyone you are trying to gather that data from. Before you require any company to invest in your project through the use of their servers, bandwidth and labors, permission is practically mandatory from a legal perspective. But if legality isn't an issue then all bets are off.This same exact debate comes up in the idea of calling images from someone else's servers even though those images might be public domain. It is still illegal to utilize their bandwidth and servers to populate your sites without their permissions.Companies have fought and won damages for these types of things. And in my personal opinion ...justifiably so. > > It would take far to long to go to every dealer to gather this info. Agreed. TCPIP for this type of thing is like collecting sand with tweezers. > > I am awaiting a response to KBB, I am sure it will come with a price tag. > Which i respect as if i had compiled this list I would want compensation. > So i was just looking to see if I had other options. Best option that comes to mind is securing some data source that is updated via FTP or CD which would almost certainly come with some type of cost.HTH Alex Alex J McCombie New World Media Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.comInterface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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On 10/17/02 4:08 PM, Inkblot Media wrote:> This is like amazon copyrighting their one-click. It is ridiculous. Well, lets say that when a company (anyone) goes to some expense to collect and dispense information on the web, any copying of that data in such a way that was not intended by the authors is subject to this type of debate. Being one of those authors, I agree whole heartedly. So while I respect your opinion I don't agree that is either like the Amazon pursuit of patent nor ridiculous. > This information is available on dozens if not hundreds of other sites. And many their sources come with costs and most/all of their efforts come with investments.> I just mention KBB as they are a leader in this field. > > I am not trying to emulate KBB, thus I am not stepping on any copyrighted > material. I am wanting to gather the standard data that goes with cars, > based on makes/models/etc. Understood. This is why I think, as did others, that you needed to pursue permission from anyone you are trying to gather that data from. Before you require any company to invest in your project through the use of their servers, bandwidth and labors, permission is practically mandatory from a legal perspective. But if legality isn't an issue then all bets are off.This same exact debate comes up in the idea of calling images from someone else's servers even though those images might be public domain. It is still illegal to utilize their bandwidth and servers to populate your sites without their permissions.Companies have fought and won damages for these types of things. And in my personal opinion ...justifiably so. > > It would take far to long to go to every dealer to gather this info. Agreed. TCPIP for this type of thing is like collecting sand with tweezers. > > I am awaiting a response to KBB, I am sure it will come with a price tag. > Which i respect as if i had compiled this list I would want compensation. > So i was just looking to see if I had other options. Best option that comes to mind is securing some data source that is updated via FTP or CD which would almost certainly come with some type of cost.HTH Alex Alex J McCombie New World Media Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.comInterface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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