Re: Search Engine questions ...

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2002


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 44800
interpreted = N
texte = >Search Engines will only see the code if your webserver is configured wrong >- If they are seeing code, everyone is seeing code. > >Search engines will follow dynamic links and dynamic pages - ours are >indexed all the time. Not all the engines follow ?var=1&var=2 though - >Google definitely does. I hope we're not talking about two different things here. Having a static link that contains ?Cart=[Cart] is one thing. That can be followed by the major engines these days. But having a link that is created on the fly only when the page is hit is another animal altogether.Google and FAST follow static links containing a ? and carry any variables, including cart numbers, with them.They haven't read the dynamically generated text or links on my pages, though.> >Check out the ?startat= variables on these pages: >http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=site:ecook.co.nz+page&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&st >art=10&sa=N Can the spider, Googlebot, FAST, or otherwise, also read the page's text if it is generated dynamically? If not, the page will get low, if any, rankings from the se's when anyone searches for words in that text.> >A Search engine spider is like an automated browser - there is no 'magic' >behind them, the magic is contained in the algorithm that parses what the >spider receives ..Yes, but I'm not sure if that adequately explains the way they work when crawling a page or not. It's way beyond my understanding. But I'm sure that they spider sites much differently than just by pretending to be a browser. They have to in order to return results pertinent to searches and eliminate the sites that use spam, cloaking, redirects, hidden text, and other tricks to get visitors.If the content on your dynamic pages is read and gets high ranking in searches, more power to you. It just doesn't mesh with my experience, though. That's why I use writefile to write static links and text that needs to be read and use [search...] to show associated data such as price or size that doesn't need to be seen by the se.Glenn------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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>Search Engines will only see the code if your webserver is configured wrong >- If they are seeing code, everyone is seeing code. > >Search engines will follow dynamic links and dynamic pages - ours are >indexed all the time. Not all the engines follow ?var=1&var=2 though - >Google definitely does. I hope we're not talking about two different things here. Having a static link that contains ?Cart=[cart] is one thing. That can be followed by the major engines these days. But having a link that is created on the fly only when the page is hit is another animal altogether.Google and FAST follow static links containing a ? and carry any variables, including cart numbers, with them.They haven't read the dynamically generated text or links on my pages, though.> >Check out the ?startat= variables on these pages: >http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=site:ecook.co.nz+page&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&st >art=10&sa=N Can the spider, Googlebot, FAST, or otherwise, also read the page's text if it is generated dynamically? If not, the page will get low, if any, rankings from the se's when anyone searches for words in that text.> >A Search engine spider is like an automated browser - there is no 'magic' >behind them, the magic is contained in the algorithm that parses what the >spider receives ..Yes, but I'm not sure if that adequately explains the way they work when crawling a page or not. It's way beyond my understanding. But I'm sure that they spider sites much differently than just by pretending to be a browser. They have to in order to return results pertinent to searches and eliminate the sites that use spam, cloaking, redirects, hidden text, and other tricks to get visitors.If the content on your dynamic pages is read and gets high ranking in searches, more power to you. It just doesn't mesh with my experience, though. That's why I use writefile to write static links and text that needs to be read and use [search...] to show associated data such as price or size that doesn't need to be seen by the se.Glenn------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Glenn Busbin

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