Re: Site Search Concepts
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numero = 47922
interpreted = N
texte = Gary/Donovan,Gary: Thank you. Just took a look at Atomz, and while it does everything I need, there is no (not one) mention of price anywhere on the site or in their whitesheets, so that means it's prohibitively expensive (I'm almost afraid to contact them...) And I currently have Google seraches running, and they work fine, but, of course they serve ads with the results, which can potentially lead users away...Sweet. Thanks again.Donovan: Thanks for the reply...I was just trying to think 'outside the box' and your very grounding comments are appreciated ;) I'll let you (& everybody) know what I come up with, as I'm inclined to roll y own rather than pay for a solution right now. Cost issues aside, the process of building something as ambitious as this will no doubt advance my webDNA skills, but the finished product, if done right, could very well be useful enough to be sold.||||| ($) ($) \ . . / <--- Me (or a monkey) with money in my eyes. Thank you. Thank you. (---) -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:12:10 -0600 Gary Krockover
wrote: >I know this doesn't help (yet) but I just saw something on this the other >day and that light bulb clicked saying I could do that in WebDNA. It >involved something about running an index on all your static html pages and >logging the results and then doing your usual db searching from there. >There was a catch or two that was mentioned that would help prevent an >overstuffed database. I've got to dig through my emails and notes, I have >it either at the office here or at home. > >It might of been something that I was reading at http://developer.apple.com >as somebody sent over some links for some articles in there related to the >IFrame issue (on the HTML editor that I did). Might take a look over there, >I think it was from there, in fact, it was. Something neat using hidden >IFrames too. I'll find it directly and get back to you. > >GK > >| Howdy, >| >| I will be embarking on some yet unexplored (for me) terrain here in a few >weeks, and I was >| wondering if I could get some direction from the list. I'm not looking for >anyone to do my work, I >| just need some basic advice as to a concept/startegy. >| >| Ok, so I want to build a site search. That's it. Basically a mini-Google. >User enters in their >| search term, WebDNA searches the entire site(s) spits out the results and >viola! Done. I have done >| this easy enough with small databases, of course (particularly >Storebuilder's products.db), and I >| 'get it', but what's got me baffled at the moment is how do I index all of >the text of every >| single page of every single site that the search needs to look through, >especially considering >| that I am retro-fitting this search onto an existing (webDNA) site with >numerous pages to look >| through and mucho text, and NOT starting from scratch (which would be much >easier)? >| >| Can [search] 'see' .html pages, and if so could I jimmy up some sort of >[listfiles]/[search] >| widget that would treat the entire site as a giant database? And If so, >how would I get it to look >| only at text and not HTML within each doc? In terms of scalability, >assuming this is even >| possible, wouldn't it kill any decent server to have to look through a >'giant' database like that >| all the time, especially if multiple requests are made? >| >| Or do I actually need to make a special 'index.db' that catalogues >everything? If so, how best to >| catalogue each pages (voluminous) text? [include]s? >| >| Am I over thinking this? Should I just buy a good search (Atomz, Google, >whatever)? Know any good >| (and affordable) ones? >| >| Ok enough for now, and thanks in adavance. >| >| -Dan >| ------------------------------------------------------------ >| http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >| (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Gary/Donovan,Gary: Thank you. Just took a look at Atomz, and while it does everything I need, there is no (not one) mention of price anywhere on the site or in their whitesheets, so that means it's prohibitively expensive (I'm almost afraid to contact them...) And I currently have Google seraches running, and they work fine, but, of course they serve ads with the results, which can potentially lead users away...Sweet. Thanks again.Donovan: Thanks for the reply...I was just trying to think 'outside the box' and your very grounding comments are appreciated ;) I'll let you (& everybody) know what I come up with, as I'm inclined to roll y own rather than pay for a solution right now. Cost issues aside, the process of building something as ambitious as this will no doubt advance my webDNA skills, but the finished product, if done right, could very well be useful enough to be sold.||||| ($) ($) \ . . / <--- Me (or a monkey) with money in my eyes. Thank you. Thank you. (---) -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:12:10 -0600 Gary Krockover wrote: >I know this doesn't help (yet) but I just saw something on this the other >day and that light bulb clicked saying I could do that in WebDNA. It >involved something about running an index on all your static html pages and >logging the results and then doing your usual db searching from there. >There was a catch or two that was mentioned that would help prevent an >overstuffed database. I've got to dig through my emails and notes, I have >it either at the office here or at home. > >It might of been something that I was reading at http://developer.apple.com >as somebody sent over some links for some articles in there related to the >IFrame issue (on the HTML editor that I did). Might take a look over there, >I think it was from there, in fact, it was. Something neat using hidden >IFrames too. I'll find it directly and get back to you. > >GK > >| Howdy, >| >| I will be embarking on some yet unexplored (for me) terrain here in a few >weeks, and I was >| wondering if I could get some direction from the list. I'm not looking for >anyone to do my work, I >| just need some basic advice as to a concept/startegy. >| >| Ok, so I want to build a site search. That's it. Basically a mini-Google. >User enters in their >| search term, WebDNA searches the entire site(s) spits out the results and >viola! Done. I have done >| this easy enough with small databases, of course (particularly >Storebuilder's products.db), and I >| 'get it', but what's got me baffled at the moment is how do I index all of >the text of every >| single page of every single site that the search needs to look through, >especially considering >| that I am retro-fitting this search onto an existing (webDNA) site with >numerous pages to look >| through and mucho text, and NOT starting from scratch (which would be much >easier)? >| >| Can [search] 'see' .html pages, and if so could I jimmy up some sort of >[listfiles]/[search] >| widget that would treat the entire site as a giant database? And If so, >how would I get it to look >| only at text and not HTML within each doc? In terms of scalability, >assuming this is even >| possible, wouldn't it kill any decent server to have to look through a >'giant' database like that >| all the time, especially if multiple requests are made? >| >| Or do I actually need to make a special 'index.db' that catalogues >everything? If so, how best to >| catalogue each pages (voluminous) text? [include]s? >| >| Am I over thinking this? Should I just buy a good search (Atomz, Google, >whatever)? Know any good >| (and affordable) ones? >| >| Ok enough for now, and thanks in adavance. >| >| -Dan >| ------------------------------------------------------------ >| http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >| (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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