Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT...
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texte = Marc, Good question ... the WebDNA engine transmits the serial number information on a repeated interval, so it 'refreshes'. So, if you have DHCP, etc., one IP goes dead while another goes live so this is easy to differentiate versus truly multiple servers. It kind of clutters up the log, so the log viewing template has a feature to look at day ranges so 'old' entries created by dynamic IP situations just 'roll off' a sliding time window. We have one customer whose IP changes daily. We had a good idea he didn't actually light up 30 servers in 30 days since each IP went dead after one day.It's pretty easy to distinguish instances of multiple servers from rolling or dynamic IPs because the time stamp together with the refresh shows them as live at the same time if it's truly multiple servers, particularly if they are 'live' over an extended period of time. It's also a pretty good clue if one IP resolves to an ISP in Europe from a 'whois' search and another resolves to a hosting service provider in Wisconsin that it's not an artifact of DHCP or router translation (speaking hypothetically of course).Phil B.-----Original Message----- From: marc@kaiwi.com [mailto:marc@kaiwi.com] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:16 AM To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com Subject: Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT...Hi Doug, Phill,Just one question. I don't use my personal copy/license of WebDNA for e-commerce (I own one personal copy), rather I use it for a whole host of other more personal internet applications, everything from databases recording and tracking chameleons, motorcycle riders, ebay auctions, original artwork, gas mileage logs, names & addresses, etc., you name it and I have an application built for it with WebDNA.My question is this. My server's IP may move around, locally in a small office setting or with other ISPs whatever, even dynamic DNS services. In this case it might appear that a single license was being used by many servers. I certainly wouldn't want a repeat of what happened to Rob to happen with my ISP.As the registered user I'm often out of town or unavailable to be contacted about my WebDNA license that I use strictly according to my license agreement.Under what circumstances would SMI attempt to contact me and then contact my ISP? In other words what is the criteria for determining a problem?Thanks again, On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 08:57 AM, Doug Deck wrote:> > Mr. Blair, > > Thank you for responding so promptly. Once we exhaust all other > avenues of > communication with the registered user on record, we finally resort to > contacting the ISP. In this case the registered user we have in our > database has not responded to several messages over several weeks. ... Signed: Marc Kaiwi ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Marc, Good question ... the WebDNA engine transmits the serial number information on a repeated interval, so it 'refreshes'. So, if you have DHCP, etc., one IP goes dead while another goes live so this is easy to differentiate versus truly multiple servers. It kind of clutters up the log, so the log viewing template has a feature to look at day ranges so 'old' entries created by dynamic IP situations just 'roll off' a sliding time window. We have one customer whose IP changes daily. We had a good idea he didn't actually light up 30 servers in 30 days since each IP went dead after one day.It's pretty easy to distinguish instances of multiple servers from rolling or dynamic IPs because the time stamp together with the refresh shows them as live at the same time if it's truly multiple servers, particularly if they are 'live' over an extended period of time. It's also a pretty good clue if one IP resolves to an ISP in Europe from a 'whois' search and another resolves to a hosting service provider in Wisconsin that it's not an artifact of DHCP or router translation (speaking hypothetically of course).Phil B.-----Original Message----- From: marc@kaiwi.com [mailto:marc@kaiwi.com] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:16 AM To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com Subject: Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT...Hi Doug, Phill,Just one question. I don't use my personal copy/license of WebDNA for e-commerce (I own one personal copy), rather I use it for a whole host of other more personal internet applications, everything from databases recording and tracking chameleons, motorcycle riders, ebay auctions, original artwork, gas mileage logs, names & addresses, etc., you name it and I have an application built for it with WebDNA.My question is this. My server's IP may move around, locally in a small office setting or with other ISPs whatever, even dynamic DNS services. In this case it might appear that a single license was being used by many servers. I certainly wouldn't want a repeat of what happened to Rob to happen with my ISP.As the registered user I'm often out of town or unavailable to be contacted about my WebDNA license that I use strictly according to my license agreement.Under what circumstances would SMI attempt to contact me and then contact my ISP? In other words what is the criteria for determining a problem?Thanks again, On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 08:57 AM, Doug Deck wrote:> > Mr. Blair, > > Thank you for responding so promptly. Once we exhaust all other > avenues of > communication with the registered user on record, we finally resort to > contacting the ISP. In this case the registered user we have in our > database has not responded to several messages over several weeks. ... Signed: Marc Kaiwi ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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