Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT...

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2003


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 49813
interpreted = N
texte = Well Ken, aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You have had an axe to grind with SMSI/PCS and it shows in almost everything you post to the list. I happen to be a former employee of SMSI and know that all of those people that I worked with are honest, decent people just trying to make a living like you. I resent the fact that you make accusations that are based in no fact whatsoever. You like to present yourself as Mr. Innocent but you are no where near that. Please keep your paranoia to yourself. --- Kenneth Grome wrote: > >First of all, if you don't have anything to hide, meaning to > pirate your > >number, there is no need to worry. > > I have credit card numbers to hide because I run an online > store. > Anyone else have something similar to hide from people who are > not > supposed to have access to it? How do we know credit card > numbers > are not being sent back to SMSI, or even to one of its > potential > software hackers? > > > > >It is hard for me to believe that SMSI point of doing this is > to snap your > >data under your nose or anything illegal. We are NOT talking > about a little > >company with some freaks. > > What evidence do you have that they are not some freaks? > Have you > met or do you know any of the programmers personally? Even if > you > know then, how can you possibly assure us that they are *ALL* > happy > at SMSI, and that none of them have axes to grind with SMSI's > management? > > > > >btw: Did you guys ever think about that with every app you > work the > >developer knows how to crack any of your data, since they > are the ones who > >developed it in the first place! > > This doesn't matter when the developers do not also create > features > that give them unauthorized access to the data on my server > that > belongs to innocent online shoppers. God only knows WHAT > data is > really being sent back to the company ... > > > By the way, I'm not suggesting that SMSI is doing (or will do) > the > things I've mentioned here and previously. I am simply taking > the > devil's advocate position by arguing that it is not only > possible, > but for SMSI it would also very EASY. > > Clearly if the wrong person (or people) were left alone to > modify the > webdna engine code, far more serious consequences could result > than > just the theft of our own personal or private data -- because > we > store credit card data of OTHER PEOPLE on our WebDNA-enabled > servers. > -- > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > ------------------------------------------------------------- > My programmers will write WebDNA code for you at $27 an hour! > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Bonkers 2003)
  2. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Dan Strong 2003)
  3. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  4. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Doug Deck 2003)
  5. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  6. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  7. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  8. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Jeff Logan 2003)
  9. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Jay Van Vark 2003)
  10. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kimberly D. Walls 2003)
  11. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Karl Schroll 2003)
  12. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  13. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Joe D'Andrea 2003)
  14. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Doug Deck 2003)
  15. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Donovan 2003)
  16. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  17. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  18. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  19. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  20. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Pat Holliday 2003)
  21. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Claude Gelinas 2003)
  22. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Daniel Schutzsmith 2003)
  23. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Bob Minor 2003)
  24. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  25. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  26. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  27. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  28. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Rene van der Velde 2003)
  29. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  30. Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Rob Blair 2003)
Well Ken, aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You have had an axe to grind with SMSI/PCS and it shows in almost everything you post to the list. I happen to be a former employee of SMSI and know that all of those people that I worked with are honest, decent people just trying to make a living like you. I resent the fact that you make accusations that are based in no fact whatsoever. You like to present yourself as Mr. Innocent but you are no where near that. Please keep your paranoia to yourself. --- Kenneth Grome wrote: > >First of all, if you don't have anything to hide, meaning to > pirate your > >number, there is no need to worry. > > I have credit card numbers to hide because I run an online > store. > Anyone else have something similar to hide from people who are > not > supposed to have access to it? How do we know credit card > numbers > are not being sent back to SMSI, or even to one of its > potential > software hackers? > > > > >It is hard for me to believe that SMSI point of doing this is > to snap your > >data under your nose or anything illegal. We are NOT talking > about a little > >company with some freaks. > > What evidence do you have that they are not some freaks? > Have you > met or do you know any of the programmers personally? Even if > you > know then, how can you possibly assure us that they are *ALL* > happy > at SMSI, and that none of them have axes to grind with SMSI's > management? > > > > >btw: Did you guys ever think about that with every app you > work the > >developer knows how to crack any of your data, since they > are the ones who > >developed it in the first place! > > This doesn't matter when the developers do not also create > features > that give them unauthorized access to the data on my server > that > belongs to innocent online shoppers. God only knows WHAT > data is > really being sent back to the company ... > > > By the way, I'm not suggesting that SMSI is doing (or will do) > the > things I've mentioned here and previously. I am simply taking > the > devil's advocate position by arguing that it is not only > possible, > but for SMSI it would also very EASY. > > Clearly if the wrong person (or people) were left alone to > modify the > webdna engine code, far more serious consequences could result > than > just the theft of our own personal or private data -- because > we > store credit card data of OTHER PEOPLE on our WebDNA-enabled > servers. > -- > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > ------------------------------------------------------------- > My programmers will write WebDNA code for you at $27 an hour! > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Bonkers

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