Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT...
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 49813
interpreted = N
texte = Well Ken, aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You havehad an axe to grind with SMSI/PCS and it shows in almosteverything you post to the list. I happen to be a formeremployee of SMSI and know that all of those people that I workedwith are honest, decent people just trying to make a living likeyou. I resent the fact that you make accusations that are basedin no fact whatsoever. You like to present yourself as Mr.Innocent but you are no where near that. Please keep yourparanoia to yourself. --- Kenneth Grome
wrote:> >First of all, if you don't have anything to hide, meaning to> pirate your> >number, there is no need to worry.> > I have credit card numbers to hide because I run an online> store. > Anyone else have something similar to hide from people who are> not > supposed to have access to it? How do we know credit card> numbers > are not being sent back to SMSI, or even to one of its> potential > software hackers?> > > > >It is hard for me to believe that SMSI point of doing this is> to snap your> >data under your nose or anything illegal. We are NOT talking> about a little> >company with some freaks.> > What evidence do you have that they are not some freaks? > Have you > met or do you know any of the programmers personally? Even if> you > know then, how can you possibly assure us that they are *ALL*> happy > at SMSI, and that none of them have axes to grind with SMSI's > management?> > > > >btw: Did you guys ever think about that with every app you> work the> >developer knows how to crack any of your data, since they> are the ones who> >developed it in the first place!> > This doesn't matter when the developers do not also create> features > that give them unauthorized access to the data on my server> that > belongs to innocent online shoppers. God only knows WHAT> data is > really being sent back to the company ...> > > By the way, I'm not suggesting that SMSI is doing (or will do)> the > things I've mentioned here and previously. I am simply taking> the > devil's advocate position by arguing that it is not only> possible, > but for SMSI it would also very EASY.> > Clearly if the wrong person (or people) were left alone to> modify the > webdna engine code, far more serious consequences could result> than > just the theft of our own personal or private data -- because> we > store credit card data of OTHER PEOPLE on our WebDNA-enabled> servers.> -- > > Sincerely,> Kenneth Grome> -------------------------------------------------------------> My programmers will write WebDNA code for you at $27 an hour!> -------------------------------------------------------------> > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to:> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/__________________________________________________Do you Yahoo!?The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingohttp://search.yahoo.com-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Well Ken, aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You havehad an axe to grind with SMSI/PCS and it shows in almosteverything you post to the list. I happen to be a formeremployee of SMSI and know that all of those people that I workedwith are honest, decent people just trying to make a living likeyou. I resent the fact that you make accusations that are basedin no fact whatsoever. You like to present yourself as Mr.Innocent but you are no where near that. Please keep yourparanoia to yourself. --- Kenneth Grome wrote:> >First of all, if you don't have anything to hide, meaning to> pirate your> >number, there is no need to worry.> > I have credit card numbers to hide because I run an online> store. > Anyone else have something similar to hide from people who are> not > supposed to have access to it? How do we know credit card> numbers > are not being sent back to SMSI, or even to one of its> potential > software hackers?> > > > >It is hard for me to believe that SMSI point of doing this is> to snap your> >data under your nose or anything illegal. We are NOT talking> about a little> >company with some freaks.> > What evidence do you have that they are not some freaks? > Have you > met or do you know any of the programmers personally? Even if> you > know then, how can you possibly assure us that they are *ALL*> happy > at SMSI, and that none of them have axes to grind with SMSI's > management?> > > > >btw: Did you guys ever think about that with every app you> work the> >developer knows how to crack any of your data, since they> are the ones who> >developed it in the first place!> > This doesn't matter when the developers do not also create> features > that give them unauthorized access to the data on my server> that > belongs to innocent online shoppers. God only knows WHAT> data is > really being sent back to the company ...> > > By the way, I'm not suggesting that SMSI is doing (or will do)> the > things I've mentioned here and previously. I am simply taking> the > devil's advocate position by arguing that it is not only> possible, > but for SMSI it would also very EASY.> > Clearly if the wrong person (or people) were left alone to> modify the > webdna engine code, far more serious consequences could result> than > just the theft of our own personal or private data -- because> we > store credit card data of OTHER PEOPLE on our WebDNA-enabled> servers.> -- > > Sincerely,> Kenneth Grome> -------------------------------------------------------------> My programmers will write WebDNA code for you at $27 an hour!> -------------------------------------------------------------> > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to:> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/__________________________________________________Do you Yahoo!?The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingohttp://search.yahoo.com-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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