Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2005


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 63217
interpreted = N
texte = UPDATE: It works. Not sure how but somehow in BOTH my attempts on this (with 2 different machines) I failed to notice that the real reason the admin client wasn't responding was due to a lack of a DNS PTR record pointing to the IP number of the machines. The installs started grabbing an IP from a DHCP server but one of the first things I would do was set the IPs manually. Turns out that I was off by 1 number as compared to my PTR file (blush). Sooooo this means (After countless hours and much testing) that Craig's workaround is indeed working for me using Tiger and Webstar V. I would also believe that if SMSI were to follow the same procedure the mystery of what security settings Tiger doesn't like could be found in a comparison from the before and after. In any case, thanks Craig and hopefully I wont be posting in a day or two with a "shouldn't have spoken too soon" message :-) Alex On 10/16/05 8:23 PM, "Alex McCombie" wrote: > Craig, > Any anyone else. > I tried the solution below and while it had the desired effect of launching > WebDNA at startup it effectively disabled the ability for Webstar's Admin > Client to connect to the admin server. > > I am not sure why this happens but it is consistent across a couple of > machines and installs. :-( > > Bummer. > > For the life of me no matter how many permission I fix beyond that (first > with webstar and then wit disk utility) my client will NOT connect again > until I deal with a clean system install. I am sure there is something > somewhere but damn if I can find it. > > So are there ANY other options on the table? I am sitting here with 2 brand > new Macs and unable to get WebDNA to run (at least past the first restart). > > SMSI? > > 10.4 and DNA 6 and Webstar 5.4 > > > > > > > 2005/07/10 12:11:52 Craig Forest Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger > > Hey Daryl, > > I'm not sure if you or anybody else has found the answer to this =20 > problem yet but I found a way to make it work and I figured I would =20 > share it. What I did was after I updated the server software to 10.4 =20= > > I found that I had to manually boot webcatalog on startup. I also =20 > found however that there is the startup script still in the startup =20 > items located in /System/Library/StartupItems/WebCatalog. Obviously =20 > it doesn't work otherwise webcatalog would have booted up so what I =20 > tried doing was moving the startup item into /Library/StartupItems =20 > and starting up again. When I restarted it took an extra long time =20 > to fully boot up, once I had boot up and logged back into the server =20 > however it came up with an alert window saying that WebCatalogs =20 > startup script wasn't the proper permissions and asked me if I wanted =20= > > to correct them. I clicked "Correct Permissions" and I'm not sure if =20= > > it asks to restart or not since this was a while ago, but either way, =20= > > once the system restarted I moved the startup item out of /Library/=20 > StartupItems, and moved it back into /System/Library/StartupItems/ =20 > and rebooted one more time. This time I didn't log in as anybody and =20= > > left the server at the login screen to insure that I could do a =20 > proper test, I used another machine to try out a webcatalog site and =20 > sure enough it worked which obviously meant that webcatalog was =20 > booting up on startup once again. > > Basically the problem with it is permissions. I don't know if there =20 > is a stream lined way to go about fixing the problem or not, but I =20 > was surprised that Tiger server detected the problem and wanted to =20 > fix it when I transfered it to the other StartupItems folder. Once =20 > it fixes it, move it back where it belongs and all is good as new. > > Hope this helps > > -- > Craig Forest > ColdWave Networks > http://coldwave.net > cforest@coldwave.net > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ -- Alex J McCombie Adventure Skies Interactive (ASI) Owner Box 124 888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111 Alex@Adventureskies.com Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Craig Forest 2005)
  2. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Alex McCombie 2005)
  3. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Rob 2005)
  4. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Alex McCombie 2005)
  5. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Alex McCombie 2005)
  6. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Craig Forest 2005)
  7. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Jim Lanford 2005)
  8. WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Daryl Mitchell 2005)
UPDATE: It works. Not sure how but somehow in BOTH my attempts on this (with 2 different machines) I failed to notice that the real reason the admin client wasn't responding was due to a lack of a DNS PTR record pointing to the IP number of the machines. The installs started grabbing an IP from a DHCP server but one of the first things I would do was set the IPs manually. Turns out that I was off by 1 number as compared to my PTR file (blush). Sooooo this means (After countless hours and much testing) that Craig's workaround is indeed working for me using Tiger and Webstar V. I would also believe that if SMSI were to follow the same procedure the mystery of what security settings Tiger doesn't like could be found in a comparison from the before and after. In any case, thanks Craig and hopefully I wont be posting in a day or two with a "shouldn't have spoken too soon" message :-) Alex On 10/16/05 8:23 PM, "Alex McCombie" wrote: > Craig, > Any anyone else. > I tried the solution below and while it had the desired effect of launching > WebDNA at startup it effectively disabled the ability for Webstar's Admin > Client to connect to the admin server. > > I am not sure why this happens but it is consistent across a couple of > machines and installs. :-( > > Bummer. > > For the life of me no matter how many permission I fix beyond that (first > with webstar and then wit disk utility) my client will NOT connect again > until I deal with a clean system install. I am sure there is something > somewhere but damn if I can find it. > > So are there ANY other options on the table? I am sitting here with 2 brand > new Macs and unable to get WebDNA to run (at least past the first restart). > > SMSI? > > 10.4 and DNA 6 and Webstar 5.4 > > > > > > > 2005/07/10 12:11:52 Craig Forest Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger > > Hey Daryl, > > I'm not sure if you or anybody else has found the answer to this =20 > problem yet but I found a way to make it work and I figured I would =20 > share it. What I did was after I updated the server software to 10.4 =20= > > I found that I had to manually boot webcatalog on startup. I also =20 > found however that there is the startup script still in the startup =20 > items located in /System/Library/StartupItems/WebCatalog. Obviously =20 > it doesn't work otherwise webcatalog would have booted up so what I =20 > tried doing was moving the startup item into /Library/StartupItems =20 > and starting up again. When I restarted it took an extra long time =20 > to fully boot up, once I had boot up and logged back into the server =20 > however it came up with an alert window saying that WebCatalogs =20 > startup script wasn't the proper permissions and asked me if I wanted =20= > > to correct them. I clicked "Correct Permissions" and I'm not sure if =20= > > it asks to restart or not since this was a while ago, but either way, =20= > > once the system restarted I moved the startup item out of /Library/=20 > StartupItems, and moved it back into /System/Library/StartupItems/ =20 > and rebooted one more time. This time I didn't log in as anybody and =20= > > left the server at the login screen to insure that I could do a =20 > proper test, I used another machine to try out a webcatalog site and =20 > sure enough it worked which obviously meant that webcatalog was =20 > booting up on startup once again. > > Basically the problem with it is permissions. I don't know if there =20 > is a stream lined way to go about fixing the problem or not, but I =20 > was surprised that Tiger server detected the problem and wanted to =20 > fix it when I transfered it to the other StartupItems folder. Once =20 > it fixes it, move it back where it belongs and all is good as new. > > Hope this helps > > -- > Craig Forest > ColdWave Networks > http://coldwave.net > cforest@coldwave.net > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ -- Alex J McCombie Adventure Skies Interactive (ASI) Owner Box 124 888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111 Alex@Adventureskies.com Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Alex McCombie

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