Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger

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2005


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texte = Alex, I'm glad to here the workaround was eventually successful for you, I was unsure if anybody was successful in trying it in the first place. I am glad to see you got it working in the end. Craig On Oct 16, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Alex McCombie wrote: > UPDATE: > It works. > Not sure how but somehow in BOTH my attempts on this (with 2 different > machines) I failed to notice that the real reason the admin client > wasn't > responding was due to a lack of a DNS PTR record pointing to the IP > number > of the machines. The installs started grabbing an IP from a DHCP > server but > one of the first things I would do was set the IPs manually. > > Turns out that I was off by 1 number as compared to my PTR file > (blush). > > Sooooo this means (After countless hours and much testing) that > Craig's > workaround is indeed working for me using Tiger and Webstar V. > > I would also believe that if SMSI were to follow the same procedure > the > mystery of what security settings Tiger doesn't like could be found > in a > comparison from the before and after. > > In any case, thanks Craig and hopefully I wont be posting in a day > or two > with a "shouldn't have spoken too soon" message > :-) > Alex > > > > > > On 10/16/05 8:23 PM, "Alex McCombie" wrote: > > >> Craig, >> Any anyone else. >> I tried the solution below and while it had the desired effect of >> launching >> WebDNA at startup it effectively disabled the ability for >> Webstar's Admin >> Client to connect to the admin server. >> >> I am not sure why this happens but it is consistent across a >> couple of >> machines and installs. :-( >> >> Bummer. >> >> For the life of me no matter how many permission I fix beyond that >> (first >> with webstar and then wit disk utility) my client will NOT connect >> again >> until I deal with a clean system install. I am sure there is >> something >> somewhere but damn if I can find it. >> >> So are there ANY other options on the table? I am sitting here >> with 2 brand >> new Macs and unable to get WebDNA to run (at least past the first >> restart). >> >> SMSI? >> >> 10.4 and DNA 6 and Webstar 5.4 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2005/07/10 12:11:52 Craig Forest Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger >> >> Hey Daryl, >> >> I'm not sure if you or anybody else has found the answer to this =20 >> problem yet but I found a way to make it work and I figured I >> would =20 >> share it. What I did was after I updated the server software to >> 10.4 =20= >> >> I found that I had to manually boot webcatalog on startup. I also =20 >> found however that there is the startup script still in the >> startup =20 >> items located in /System/Library/StartupItems/WebCatalog. >> Obviously =20 >> it doesn't work otherwise webcatalog would have booted up so what >> I =20 >> tried doing was moving the startup item into /Library/StartupItems >> =20 >> and starting up again. When I restarted it took an extra long time >> =20 >> to fully boot up, once I had boot up and logged back into the >> server =20 >> however it came up with an alert window saying that WebCatalogs =20 >> startup script wasn't the proper permissions and asked me if I >> wanted =20= >> >> to correct them. I clicked "Correct Permissions" and I'm not sure >> if =20= >> >> it asks to restart or not since this was a while ago, but either >> way, =20= >> >> once the system restarted I moved the startup item out of /Library/ >> =20 >> StartupItems, and moved it back into /System/Library/StartupItems/ >> =20 >> and rebooted one more time. This time I didn't log in as anybody >> and =20= >> >> left the server at the login screen to insure that I could do a =20 >> proper test, I used another machine to try out a webcatalog site >> and =20 >> sure enough it worked which obviously meant that webcatalog was =20 >> booting up on startup once again. >> >> Basically the problem with it is permissions. I don't know if >> there =20 >> is a stream lined way to go about fixing the problem or not, but I >> =20 >> was surprised that Tiger server detected the problem and wanted to >> =20 >> fix it when I transfered it to the other StartupItems folder. Once >> =20 >> it fixes it, move it back where it belongs and all is good as new. >> >> Hope this helps >> >> -- >> Craig Forest >> ColdWave Networks >> http://coldwave.net >> cforest@coldwave.net >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > -- > Alex J McCombie Adventure Skies Interactive (ASI) > Owner Box 124 > 888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111 > Alex@Adventureskies.com > > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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  1. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Craig Forest 2005)
  2. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Alex McCombie 2005)
  3. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Rob 2005)
  4. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Alex McCombie 2005)
  5. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Alex McCombie 2005)
  6. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Craig Forest 2005)
  7. Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Jim Lanford 2005)
  8. WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger ( Daryl Mitchell 2005)
Alex, I'm glad to here the workaround was eventually successful for you, I was unsure if anybody was successful in trying it in the first place. I am glad to see you got it working in the end. Craig On Oct 16, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Alex McCombie wrote: > UPDATE: > It works. > Not sure how but somehow in BOTH my attempts on this (with 2 different > machines) I failed to notice that the real reason the admin client > wasn't > responding was due to a lack of a DNS PTR record pointing to the IP > number > of the machines. The installs started grabbing an IP from a DHCP > server but > one of the first things I would do was set the IPs manually. > > Turns out that I was off by 1 number as compared to my PTR file > (blush). > > Sooooo this means (After countless hours and much testing) that > Craig's > workaround is indeed working for me using Tiger and Webstar V. > > I would also believe that if SMSI were to follow the same procedure > the > mystery of what security settings Tiger doesn't like could be found > in a > comparison from the before and after. > > In any case, thanks Craig and hopefully I wont be posting in a day > or two > with a "shouldn't have spoken too soon" message > :-) > Alex > > > > > > On 10/16/05 8:23 PM, "Alex McCombie" wrote: > > >> Craig, >> Any anyone else. >> I tried the solution below and while it had the desired effect of >> launching >> WebDNA at startup it effectively disabled the ability for >> Webstar's Admin >> Client to connect to the admin server. >> >> I am not sure why this happens but it is consistent across a >> couple of >> machines and installs. :-( >> >> Bummer. >> >> For the life of me no matter how many permission I fix beyond that >> (first >> with webstar and then wit disk utility) my client will NOT connect >> again >> until I deal with a clean system install. I am sure there is >> something >> somewhere but damn if I can find it. >> >> So are there ANY other options on the table? I am sitting here >> with 2 brand >> new Macs and unable to get WebDNA to run (at least past the first >> restart). >> >> SMSI? >> >> 10.4 and DNA 6 and Webstar 5.4 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2005/07/10 12:11:52 Craig Forest Re: WebDNA 6 and OS X Tiger >> >> Hey Daryl, >> >> I'm not sure if you or anybody else has found the answer to this =20 >> problem yet but I found a way to make it work and I figured I >> would =20 >> share it. What I did was after I updated the server software to >> 10.4 =20= >> >> I found that I had to manually boot webcatalog on startup. I also =20 >> found however that there is the startup script still in the >> startup =20 >> items located in /System/Library/StartupItems/WebCatalog. >> Obviously =20 >> it doesn't work otherwise webcatalog would have booted up so what >> I =20 >> tried doing was moving the startup item into /Library/StartupItems >> =20 >> and starting up again. When I restarted it took an extra long time >> =20 >> to fully boot up, once I had boot up and logged back into the >> server =20 >> however it came up with an alert window saying that WebCatalogs =20 >> startup script wasn't the proper permissions and asked me if I >> wanted =20= >> >> to correct them. I clicked "Correct Permissions" and I'm not sure >> if =20= >> >> it asks to restart or not since this was a while ago, but either >> way, =20= >> >> once the system restarted I moved the startup item out of /Library/ >> =20 >> StartupItems, and moved it back into /System/Library/StartupItems/ >> =20 >> and rebooted one more time. This time I didn't log in as anybody >> and =20= >> >> left the server at the login screen to insure that I could do a =20 >> proper test, I used another machine to try out a webcatalog site >> and =20 >> sure enough it worked which obviously meant that webcatalog was =20 >> booting up on startup once again. >> >> Basically the problem with it is permissions. I don't know if >> there =20 >> is a stream lined way to go about fixing the problem or not, but I >> =20 >> was surprised that Tiger server detected the problem and wanted to >> =20 >> fix it when I transfered it to the other StartupItems folder. Once >> =20 >> it fixes it, move it back where it belongs and all is good as new. >> >> Hope this helps >> >> -- >> Craig Forest >> ColdWave Networks >> http://coldwave.net >> cforest@coldwave.net >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > -- > Alex J McCombie Adventure Skies Interactive (ASI) > Owner Box 124 > 888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111 > Alex@Adventureskies.com > > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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