Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems
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texte = Any replace routines data will be lost, unless you include a commit database routine on the page. We always use the commit routine on pages with critical data entries. On Apr 13, 2008, at 14:06, Tennis De Jong
wrote: > I have not seen a pattern. The largest database on the server is > about 15 mb. > > I do have "Commit Databases Automatically After Modification" > checked. What happens to a database with modifications if it is not > committed and the server is rebooted or crashes? Is the newest data > lost? > > Thanks! > Tennis > > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Christophe Billiottet wrote: >> Can you tell if the DB or templates not found by WebDNA show a >> specific pattern? place/permissions/UID-GID/ or even corruption? >> WebDNA regularely flushes databases and templates on disk. In >> "preferences", you have the option to "Automatically commit >> databases to disk after modification". This can turn into a heavy >> process for large bases with frequent modifications. >> >> chris >> >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2008, at 14:09, Tennis De Jong wrote: >> >>> I had a outage yesterday afternoon around 4pm. In looking at the >>> error logs I noticed that WebDNA started having problems around >>> 1pm. The problems started with not being able to find a >>> "ShoppingCarts" folder in a store that has been running for years. >>> WebDNA then started having problems finding certain .inc files and >>> around 3pm the error log show WebDNA was unable to find and >>> display certain .tpl documents. >>> >>> The server has numerous web sites that share the same .inc >>> documents. WebDNA was able to find the .inc documents for 99% of >>> the sites. It's very random when it decides it can't find a .inc >>> document. The final errors before it totally quit serving pages >>> was it's inability to find some databases. Some of these database >>> have been on the same server for several years and have never been >>> moved or modifieds. It appears WebDNA just decides to stop finding >>> them... >>> >>> Our server is an Xserve dual 1.33 ghz with 2 gb ram. It has a 320 >>> gb hard drive with only 86 gb used. We run iTools 8.2 with WebDNA >>> 6.0a >>> >>> In the past most of our WebDNA outages happened between noon and >>> 2pm. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Tennis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Karl Schroll wrote: >>>> We had an outage this morning as well, but it was the same >>>> symptom I last reported: template or DB not found for some, but >>>> not all, sites. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 13, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Paul Willis wrote: >>>> >>>>>> OK I had another WebDNA stop this morning at 07:36 GMT - anyone >>>>>> else? >>>>> >>>>> Webdna stopped running for us this morning. CPU was running very >>>>> high. WebDNA Monitor was running but all that was being served >>>>> was "WebDNA server is not running" message. >>>>> >>>>> A Whistleblower alert went off at approx 7:14 am BST (GMT+1) >>>>> although looking in the server system log there were problems >>>>> long before... >>>>> >>>>> Apr 13 05:21:00 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 05:26:04 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 06:21:58 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 06:51:18 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 06:56:19 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 07:04:28 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> >>>>> 2x1GHz XServe running Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 with all the >>>>> software updates. >>>>> 2GB RAM >>>>> 43GB disk space available (of 55GB) >>>>> WebDNA unix-Macintosh OS X Apache Module version 6.0a >>>>> A bunch of smallish dbs nothing too stressful >>>>> No site gets much traffic >>>>> No code changes on any of the sites for ages. >>>>> >>>>> ie: no reason for it to stop working at all that we can see. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> > >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> > >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Any replace routines data will be lost, unless you include a commit database routine on the page. We always use the commit routine on pages with critical data entries. On Apr 13, 2008, at 14:06, Tennis De Jong wrote: > I have not seen a pattern. The largest database on the server is > about 15 mb. > > I do have "Commit Databases Automatically After Modification" > checked. What happens to a database with modifications if it is not > committed and the server is rebooted or crashes? Is the newest data > lost? > > Thanks! > Tennis > > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Christophe Billiottet wrote: >> Can you tell if the DB or templates not found by WebDNA show a >> specific pattern? place/permissions/UID-GID/ or even corruption? >> WebDNA regularely flushes databases and templates on disk. In >> "preferences", you have the option to "Automatically commit >> databases to disk after modification". This can turn into a heavy >> process for large bases with frequent modifications. >> >> chris >> >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2008, at 14:09, Tennis De Jong wrote: >> >>> I had a outage yesterday afternoon around 4pm. In looking at the >>> error logs I noticed that WebDNA started having problems around >>> 1pm. The problems started with not being able to find a >>> "ShoppingCarts" folder in a store that has been running for years. >>> WebDNA then started having problems finding certain .inc files and >>> around 3pm the error log show WebDNA was unable to find and >>> display certain .tpl documents. >>> >>> The server has numerous web sites that share the same .inc >>> documents. WebDNA was able to find the .inc documents for 99% of >>> the sites. It's very random when it decides it can't find a .inc >>> document. The final errors before it totally quit serving pages >>> was it's inability to find some databases. Some of these database >>> have been on the same server for several years and have never been >>> moved or modifieds. It appears WebDNA just decides to stop finding >>> them... >>> >>> Our server is an Xserve dual 1.33 ghz with 2 gb ram. It has a 320 >>> gb hard drive with only 86 gb used. We run iTools 8.2 with WebDNA >>> 6.0a >>> >>> In the past most of our WebDNA outages happened between noon and >>> 2pm. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Tennis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Karl Schroll wrote: >>>> We had an outage this morning as well, but it was the same >>>> symptom I last reported: template or DB not found for some, but >>>> not all, sites. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 13, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Paul Willis wrote: >>>> >>>>>> OK I had another WebDNA stop this morning at 07:36 GMT - anyone >>>>>> else? >>>>> >>>>> Webdna stopped running for us this morning. CPU was running very >>>>> high. WebDNA Monitor was running but all that was being served >>>>> was "WebDNA server is not running" message. >>>>> >>>>> A Whistleblower alert went off at approx 7:14 am BST (GMT+1) >>>>> although looking in the server system log there were problems >>>>> long before... >>>>> >>>>> Apr 13 05:21:00 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 05:26:04 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 06:21:58 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 06:51:18 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 06:56:19 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> Apr 13 07:04:28 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>>> connection with the module. >>>>> >>>>> 2x1GHz XServe running Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 with all the >>>>> software updates. >>>>> 2GB RAM >>>>> 43GB disk space available (of 55GB) >>>>> WebDNA unix-Macintosh OS X Apache Module version 6.0a >>>>> A bunch of smallish dbs nothing too stressful >>>>> No site gets much traffic >>>>> No code changes on any of the sites for ages. >>>>> >>>>> ie: no reason for it to stop working at all that we can see. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> > >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> > >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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