Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems

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2008


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texte = no guarantees on that. I restart my servers every day (os x 10.2 Webstar V webcat/h/h/h DNA 5. something) i see most days that they stay up just fine all day some days webstar restarts itself 5-100 times during the day. (it emails me *sigh*) Occasionally whatever it is that's causing the problems passes through webstar self defense of crashing and bombs webdna. i have long assumed that it's due to malformed URLS and webstar/webdna being outdated to current attacks, but for the most part, i rarely get any customer complaining about downtime, as the whole system is set up to monitor itself and restart anything that fails ASAP. One nice thing about this combination, everything restarts very quickly, most of the time completely unnoticed by a human (except for the 30 seconds it takes to reboot) BBB On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:47 AM, webmaster wrote: > OSX and still under wevbstar (don't laugh to hard)...About 6 or so > weeks ago webcat started acting up and quitting. Screwed around with > the settings etc. I seemed to have solved my problem as I have gone > about 2 weeks and no issues. My last change - fix was to search my > entire hard drive for webcat error logs. Some were malformed. Once I > deleted them all and turned off logging...(still have my fingers > crossed that the problem is over) > > >> Gotcha... my insight/question is does this really need a server >> restart or a service restart, for us it seem that just the service >> restart should be fine. >> >> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:19:37 -0400, Colin Sidwell > > wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I can confirm that if you restart the server before your approx 74 >>> hour limit is up, you get another 74 hours before it goes again. >>> >>> My money's on Smith Micro turning off the 'phone home' server, as >>> this problem is affecting all versions of WebDNA irrespective of >>> Apache version or platform. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Colin >>> >>> >>> Vijay-Kumar Solanki wrote: >>>> this sounds like something we might need to do; however, i have >>>> noticed that when we run into the issue, we just need to kill the >>>> webcatalog process ( OS X ), and the other process will restart >>>> it... so i wonder if we just need to do that once every day in >>>> the am... >>>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Brian B. Burton wrote: >>>> >>>>> i know it's old fashioned, but i have a script that reboots my >>>>> severs every day at 5:15AM EST. Nice and safe, never a problem. >>>>> Never, and i mean not once have I had a customer complain. >>>>> (seems they are busy sleeping, hmm, well timed on my part ) >>>>> Problem solved :) >>>>> >>>>> BBB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:16 PM, Karl Schroll wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Besides discussing legal remedies off this list, has anyone >>>>>> come up with a way to fix these every 72-hour or so hiccups? ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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  2. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  3. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Michael A. DeLorenzo" 2008)
  4. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  5. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Robie Blair" 2008)
  6. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  7. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  8. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  9. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Pat McCormick 2008)
  10. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Bob Minor 2008)
  11. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Mark Bergkvist 2008)
  12. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Dennis J. Bonsall, Jr." 2008)
  13. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Lester 2008)
  14. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  15. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Planet DJ (Chris W.)" 2008)
  16. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  17. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Chris 2008)
  18. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  19. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  20. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  21. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  22. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( webmaster 2008)
  23. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  24. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Rob 2008)
  25. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  26. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  27. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Brian B. Burton" 2008)
  28. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( webmaster 2008)
  29. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Vijay-Kumar Solanki" 2008)
  30. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  31. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Vijay-Kumar Solanki 2008)
  32. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Brian B. Burton" 2008)
  33. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  34. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  35. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  36. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  37. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  38. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  39. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  40. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  41. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Grant Hulbert 2008)
  42. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  43. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  44. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  45. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  46. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  47. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  48. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  49. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  50. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  51. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  52. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  53. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
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  56. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  57. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  58. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
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  64. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  65. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( John Peacock 2008)
  66. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  67. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  68. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  69. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  70. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Vijay-Kumar Solanki 2008)
  71. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  72. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Rob 2008)
  73. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  74. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Dana Keil 2008)
  75. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  76. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Marc Thompson 2008)
  77. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  78. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jym Duane 2008)
  79. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  80. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  81. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  82. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Vijay-Kumar Solanki" 2008)
  83. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Marc Thompson 2008)
  84. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Rob 2008)
  85. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  86. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Atchison 2008)
  87. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  88. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  89. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Palle Bo Nielsen 2008)
  90. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  91. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  92. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  93. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  94. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  95. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  96. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  97. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  98. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  99. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Thierry Almy 2008)
  100. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  101. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  102. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Tana Adams" 2008)
  103. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  104. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Tana Adams" 2008)
  105. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Will Starck" 2008)
  106. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  107. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  108. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  109. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  110. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  111. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  112. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  113. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  114. Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
no guarantees on that. I restart my servers every day (os x 10.2 Webstar V webcat/h/h/h DNA 5. something) i see most days that they stay up just fine all day some days webstar restarts itself 5-100 times during the day. (it emails me *sigh*) Occasionally whatever it is that's causing the problems passes through webstar self defense of crashing and bombs webdna. i have long assumed that it's due to malformed URLS and webstar/webdna being outdated to current attacks, but for the most part, i rarely get any customer complaining about downtime, as the whole system is set up to monitor itself and restart anything that fails ASAP. One nice thing about this combination, everything restarts very quickly, most of the time completely unnoticed by a human (except for the 30 seconds it takes to reboot) BBB On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:47 AM, webmaster wrote: > OSX and still under wevbstar (don't laugh to hard)...About 6 or so > weeks ago webcat started acting up and quitting. Screwed around with > the settings etc. I seemed to have solved my problem as I have gone > about 2 weeks and no issues. My last change - fix was to search my > entire hard drive for webcat error logs. Some were malformed. Once I > deleted them all and turned off logging...(still have my fingers > crossed that the problem is over) > > >> Gotcha... my insight/question is does this really need a server >> restart or a service restart, for us it seem that just the service >> restart should be fine. >> >> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:19:37 -0400, Colin Sidwell > > wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I can confirm that if you restart the server before your approx 74 >>> hour limit is up, you get another 74 hours before it goes again. >>> >>> My money's on Smith Micro turning off the 'phone home' server, as >>> this problem is affecting all versions of WebDNA irrespective of >>> Apache version or platform. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Colin >>> >>> >>> Vijay-Kumar Solanki wrote: >>>> this sounds like something we might need to do; however, i have >>>> noticed that when we run into the issue, we just need to kill the >>>> webcatalog process ( OS X ), and the other process will restart >>>> it... so i wonder if we just need to do that once every day in >>>> the am... >>>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Brian B. Burton wrote: >>>> >>>>> i know it's old fashioned, but i have a script that reboots my >>>>> severs every day at 5:15AM EST. Nice and safe, never a problem. >>>>> Never, and i mean not once have I had a customer complain. >>>>> (seems they are busy sleeping, hmm, well timed on my part ) >>>>> Problem solved :) >>>>> >>>>> BBB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:16 PM, Karl Schroll wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Besides discussing legal remedies off this list, has anyone >>>>>> come up with a way to fix these every 72-hour or so hiccups? ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Brian B. Burton"

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