Re: Me know logical no need
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texte = I would guess, like myself, you got into computers after tragic experiencesin the field of customer service/relations.You are a legend.HEHEHEOn 10/7/02 4:52 PM, Aaron Lynch
wrote:> On 7/9/02 9:33 PM, Andrew Simpson mashed the following keys :> >> We recently did a job like this with a fortnightly update of 20,000 products>> via a tab delimited file.>> >> The file was junk so we just asked them to change the format so it would>> work better and we wouldn't have to code so much.>> >> Thatıs the good thing about kiwis, we think outside of the square. Don't>> spend years writing thousands of lines of code to manipulate crap data. Get>> the client to fix the data and write bugger all code.>> >> >> Thinking about it - if they have a 500mb database - they must have some>> fairly serious hardware powering it. Get them to sort it out for you.> > > > > Hahahahaha Oh, how you make me laugh.> Yes, they spent $500,000 on hardware. (that they've been 'implementing'> since 2000)> > They have 3 t1's> They have a load-balanced cluster of ftp servers to feed those three piddly> t1's> Last week they went down for 12+ hours because they don't have a generator,> their UPS failed, and they had no monitoring to tell them, so it was fixed> at 8 am when somebody noticed the NOC was lukewarm and unusually quiet.> > They have been unable to add a single field of additional data which was> approved OVER a year ago.> > BUT just last week they announced that they would be adding a field for 'no> internet advertising' Now, they remove the NIA listings before giving them> to us, so basically they are adding 500,000 TABS, because that field will> __ALWAYS__ be empty.> > > I thought I told you not to get me started!? And did I mention they are> stupid?> > > > >> >> >> >> On 10/7/02 4:09 PM, Aaron Lynch wrote:>> >>> No you aren;t missing anything.>>> >>> But keep in mind that over night, I have to run triggers that download the>>> data, fix the data from the stupid MLS (things like space padding in All of>>> the fields, year as '2002.000' #of fireplaces in thousandths '2.000'>>> >>> (did I mention they are stupid? Anybody know what the hell .400th of a>>> fireplace is? A freakin brick maybe?) -don;t get me started on how dumb>>> this database is and the hoops I gotta go through just to use it!)>>> >>> AND I have this dang tree farm site that runs triggers then too. ;>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/9/02 8:55 PM, Glenn Busbin mashed the following keys :>>> >>>>> You're right, but in my experience to date, doing a simple append to like>>>>> a>>>>> 5 or 10 meg database will completely lockup Webcat for several minutes.>>>> >>>> Aaron,>>>> Since the db is updated once per day, the searches need only be done once>>>> per>>>> day. The reports can be written to static files once, not every time one of>>>> the 15k silver tongues looks at the site. The data displayed will be as>>>> current as the info you received earlier in the day.>>>> >>>> Or am I missing something in how this thing is being used?>>>> >>>> Glenn>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/> > > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-- Andrew SimpsonWeb DevelopmentBlackpepper Interactive LtdPO Box 99805Newmarket4 Clayton StreetNewmarketAucklandPh: +64 9 520-6281Mob: 0272733270Fax: +64 9 524-1849http://www.blackpepper.co.nz-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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I would guess, like myself, you got into computers after tragic experiencesin the field of customer service/relations.You are a legend.HEHEHEOn 10/7/02 4:52 PM, Aaron Lynch wrote:> On 7/9/02 9:33 PM, Andrew Simpson mashed the following keys :> >> We recently did a job like this with a fortnightly update of 20,000 products>> via a tab delimited file.>> >> The file was junk so we just asked them to change the format so it would>> work better and we wouldn't have to code so much.>> >> Thatıs the good thing about kiwis, we think outside of the square. Don't>> spend years writing thousands of lines of code to manipulate crap data. Get>> the client to fix the data and write bugger all code.>> >> >> Thinking about it - if they have a 500mb database - they must have some>> fairly serious hardware powering it. Get them to sort it out for you.> > > > > Hahahahaha Oh, how you make me laugh.> Yes, they spent $500,000 on hardware. (that they've been 'implementing'> since 2000)> > They have 3 t1's> They have a load-balanced cluster of ftp servers to feed those three piddly> t1's> Last week they went down for 12+ hours because they don't have a generator,> their UPS failed, and they had no monitoring to tell them, so it was fixed> at 8 am when somebody noticed the NOC was lukewarm and unusually quiet.> > They have been unable to add a single field of additional data which was> approved OVER a year ago.> > BUT just last week they announced that they would be adding a field for 'no> internet advertising' Now, they remove the NIA listings before giving them> to us, so basically they are adding 500,000 TABS, because that field will> __ALWAYS__ be empty.> > > I thought I told you not to get me started!? And did I mention they are> stupid?> > > > >> >> >> >> On 10/7/02 4:09 PM, Aaron Lynch wrote:>> >>> No you aren;t missing anything.>>> >>> But keep in mind that over night, I have to run triggers that download the>>> data, fix the data from the stupid MLS (things like space padding in All of>>> the fields, year as '2002.000' #of fireplaces in thousandths '2.000'>>> >>> (did I mention they are stupid? Anybody know what the hell .400th of a>>> fireplace is? A freakin brick maybe?) -don;t get me started on how dumb>>> this database is and the hoops I gotta go through just to use it!)>>> >>> AND I have this dang tree farm site that runs triggers then too. ;>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/9/02 8:55 PM, Glenn Busbin mashed the following keys :>>> >>>>> You're right, but in my experience to date, doing a simple append to like>>>>> a>>>>> 5 or 10 meg database will completely lockup Webcat for several minutes.>>>> >>>> Aaron,>>>> Since the db is updated once per day, the searches need only be done once>>>> per>>>> day. The reports can be written to static files once, not every time one of>>>> the 15k silver tongues looks at the site. The data displayed will be as>>>> current as the info you received earlier in the day.>>>> >>>> Or am I missing something in how this thing is being used?>>>> >>>> Glenn>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/> > > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-- Andrew SimpsonWeb DevelopmentBlackpepper Interactive LtdPO Box 99805Newmarket4 Clayton StreetNewmarketAucklandPh: +64 9 520-6281Mob: 0272733270Fax: +64 9 524-1849http://www.blackpepper.co.nz-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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