Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0?
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texte = Phillip Bonesteele wrote: [snip]A couple of few things on this topic... I would first like to say that SMSI is doing a great job... you only have to take a peak at appendixC http://webdnadocs.smithmicro.com/WebDNA%20Change%20History.html to see the kind of support they are giving WebDNA. The team has been very responsive in the last year, even down to an individual basis, and deserves recognition for that. (I was up late to 11:30PM with Scott one evening when I was having issues with PayFloPro).WebDNA (or webcat) is unique. It draws folks from two (or more) distinctly different arena's. Those arena's are from a Webserver owner that wants to add dynamic/commerce functionality to their website/s to an ISP whom wants to give clients the option of dynamic/commerce functionality. For the first, one has to be seriously committed to wanting good and profound functionality to caugh up that sum. For the later, the cost (as it stands) may not be bad at all. (then there are those of us in between)I had been looking at WebCAT (and ken's posts ;-) at PCS for about *2 or 3* years before I really had the financial resources and the mental ability to make the jump. This may be because I was some of those terms that John describes ??. But!, This seemed to be the allure of the WebSTAR / WebCAT combo. It was a product that offered somewhat less technical people a shot at something that added real professional value to there dreams/needs... (weather that need was to chase after a .com business, fit a needed spot for an ISP web service, host sites for an existing corperate business etc...). It was a product that added a lot of value for a one man/woman show.This may be what is slightly changing... Noting Johns statement: I want SMSI to continue to develop WebCat for the *professional market*It seems to me a bit like this is where Smith Micro *is* putting more of its resources. Most of the new technologies will only be used by the more professional individuals.A few things seem to me to be apparent. 1) people are expecting more from web developement these days (as apposed to a couple years ago) in the area of dynamic features and commerce. 2) people are becomming more aware in general of the server side abilities. 3) The out-of-reach functions of ago are now becoming more standard (For example, MGI, now comes with WebSTAR. It has good features for a moderate dynamic site. And, PHP, ASP etc are becoming more common place) 4) people might be paying less for Server Side Services these days.I don't know exactly what this all means but it could be that there isn't that alluring (devine light) that was the WebCatalog of the later 1990's ??? I might be totally off here but maybe the margin from entrepeneur to professional market is growing larger.?For the entrepeneur my advice is a thuroughly worked over StoreBuilder and (maybe more accurately WebMerchant) system. One that is current with anything haveing to do with commerce and that offers much more in versitality. (for example, one cannot just put [purchase cart=[cart]] in a website they build and expect WebMerchant to work. There is actually a huge amount of resources in WebMerchant but one has to configure quite a bit to make it work well with a site they create.For the professional Market maybe the answer is all of the professional development / ISP stuff??Sorry this is so long but just a couple more comments... I can relate this with another software product that has nothing to do with commerce... This is the ProTools LE line from DigiDesign. These guys had the guiding light when it came to producing audio from a workstation a couple years back (now many have followed)... a one man/woman production studio. The way I perseve this is that they had a very advanced piece of software called ProTools. They created a dumbed down version called LE to wich they targeted in a position where any serious musician with a good Mac might be able to afford. They still hold the candle because they draw from there $25,000 version whenever the light starts to fade and put those resources in the affordable price points of the LE version.My point is, maybe Smith Micro can do something to retain this light for the people that want to just bring there catalog to the internet, but yet satisfy the more advanced market with an ISP version?There is much power in this language that could offer services to both the professional developer and the entrepeneur. It will be interesting to see what is done with this power.Shwew, back to work.Donovan -- -Donovan Brooke -Administrator of IT / -Assc. Art Director -Creative Services -Epsen Hillmer Graphics-402.342.1169 X297 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Phillip Bonesteele wrote: [snip]A couple of few things on this topic... I would first like to say that SMSI is doing a great job... you only have to take a peak at appendixC http://webdnadocs.smithmicro.com/WebDNA%20Change%20History.html to see the kind of support they are giving WebDNA. The team has been very responsive in the last year, even down to an individual basis, and deserves recognition for that. (I was up late to 11:30PM with Scott one evening when I was having issues with PayFloPro).WebDNA (or webcat) is unique. It draws folks from two (or more) distinctly different arena's. Those arena's are from a Webserver owner that wants to add dynamic/commerce functionality to their website/s to an ISP whom wants to give clients the option of dynamic/commerce functionality. For the first, one has to be seriously committed to wanting good and profound functionality to caugh up that sum. For the later, the cost (as it stands) may not be bad at all. (then there are those of us in between)I had been looking at WebCAT (and ken's posts ;-) at PCS for about *2 or 3* years before I really had the financial resources and the mental ability to make the jump. This may be because I was some of those terms that John describes ??. But!, This seemed to be the allure of the WebSTAR / WebCAT combo. It was a product that offered somewhat less technical people a shot at something that added real professional value to there dreams/needs... (weather that need was to chase after a .com business, fit a needed spot for an ISP web service, host sites for an existing corperate business etc...). It was a product that added a lot of value for a one man/woman show.This may be what is slightly changing... Noting Johns statement: I want SMSI to continue to develop WebCat for the *professional market*It seems to me a bit like this is where Smith Micro *is* putting more of its resources. Most of the new technologies will only be used by the more professional individuals.A few things seem to me to be apparent. 1) people are expecting more from web developement these days (as apposed to a couple years ago) in the area of dynamic features and commerce. 2) people are becomming more aware in general of the server side abilities. 3) The out-of-reach functions of ago are now becoming more standard (For example, MGI, now comes with WebSTAR. It has good features for a moderate dynamic site. And, PHP, ASP etc are becoming more common place) 4) people might be paying less for Server Side Services these days.I don't know exactly what this all means but it could be that there isn't that alluring (devine light) that was the WebCatalog of the later 1990's ??? I might be totally off here but maybe the margin from entrepeneur to professional market is growing larger.?For the entrepeneur my advice is a thuroughly worked over StoreBuilder and (maybe more accurately WebMerchant) system. One that is current with anything haveing to do with commerce and that offers much more in versitality. (for example, one cannot just put [purchase cart=[cart]] in a website they build and expect WebMerchant to work. There is actually a huge amount of resources in WebMerchant but one has to configure quite a bit to make it work well with a site they create.For the professional Market maybe the answer is all of the professional development / ISP stuff??Sorry this is so long but just a couple more comments... I can relate this with another software product that has nothing to do with commerce... This is the ProTools LE line from DigiDesign. These guys had the guiding light when it came to producing audio from a workstation a couple years back (now many have followed)... a one man/woman production studio. The way I perseve this is that they had a very advanced piece of software called ProTools. They created a dumbed down version called LE to wich they targeted in a position where any serious musician with a good Mac might be able to afford. They still hold the candle because they draw from there $25,000 version whenever the light starts to fade and put those resources in the affordable price points of the LE version.My point is, maybe Smith Micro can do something to retain this light for the people that want to just bring there catalog to the internet, but yet satisfy the more advanced market with an ISP version?There is much power in this language that could offer services to both the professional developer and the entrepeneur. It will be interesting to see what is done with this power.Shwew, back to work.Donovan -- -Donovan Brooke -Administrator of IT / -Assc. Art Director -Creative Services -Epsen Hillmer Graphics-402.342.1169 X297 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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