Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems

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2008


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texte = This type of thing has happened to us as well -- for a while. We finally determined it had to be lack of disk space. We go in, clear away some log files and emails and it works fine (until it happens again a couple of months later). You're lucky if you haven't lost any data because this sometimes does happen with us -- not that often but it has happened. The last few hundred records will just be gone because WebCat stopped right in the middle of it writing to the database. Anyway, I hope this helps. Tana -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Will Starck Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:40 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Are you sure you're not running out of RAM? Running out of disk space? Cheers, Will PS: I was going to comment on an intermittent WebDNA problem I have been having since about 2004, but I reached my smartass quotient today already, so I kept my thoughts to myself... -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:00 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems I think that all the databases that are usually affected are using an .hdr file. Many of my other dbs are in merge format. I'm almost certain that all the fields in the .hdrs match the fields in the .dbs ('cause the dbs wouldn't work at all if the fields didn't match), but I guess I'll check again . Does anyone have any caveats on using hdr files vs. embedding the field names in the dbs? Thanks. Jim Ziegler On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Jim Ziegler wrote: > Donovan and Christophe, > First, thanks for you suggestions. > > I do FTP dbs and other files to the server, so owner and group are > *not* www. However, I use the Access Control Lists to ensure that > www has read and write permissions to all the files. I just double- > checked, and those settings are still correct. It's always worked > for me before... > > Jim > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> Jim Ziegler wrote: >>> Hello, List, >>> I'm baffled, and I can't find anything pertinent in the archives. >>> I'm running WebDNA 6 on Mac OSX Server 10.4.11. >>> Lately, every now and then, WebDNA balks. It does not shut down >>> completely, but certain things stop working. Certain databases >>> won't function, while others do. A certain [copyfile] tag fails. >>> The problems occur on at least two of my WebDNA sites (apparently >>> at the same time). It happened again today, and I found several >>> of these errors in the WebDNA error log stating: >>> Error: Can't open order file. Ignoring [OrderFile] context >>> This happened on my shoppingcart page, which normally functions >>> perfectly. >>> One more interesting clue: When the craziness happened today, I >>> flushed databases, and all is well again. >>> Any ideas? >>> Thanks in advance. I'm sorry if I'm not explaining this well. >>> Jim Ziegler >> >> >> Are you doing any manual file uploads that may effect permissions? >> Kinda sounds like a permissions thing. >> >> Donovan >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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This type of thing has happened to us as well -- for a while. We finally determined it had to be lack of disk space. We go in, clear away some log files and emails and it works fine (until it happens again a couple of months later). You're lucky if you haven't lost any data because this sometimes does happen with us -- not that often but it has happened. The last few hundred records will just be gone because WebCat stopped right in the middle of it writing to the database. Anyway, I hope this helps. Tana -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Will Starck Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:40 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Are you sure you're not running out of RAM? Running out of disk space? Cheers, Will PS: I was going to comment on an intermittent WebDNA problem I have been having since about 2004, but I reached my smartass quotient today already, so I kept my thoughts to myself... -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:00 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems I think that all the databases that are usually affected are using an .hdr file. Many of my other dbs are in merge format. I'm almost certain that all the fields in the .hdrs match the fields in the .dbs ('cause the dbs wouldn't work at all if the fields didn't match), but I guess I'll check again . Does anyone have any caveats on using hdr files vs. embedding the field names in the dbs? Thanks. Jim Ziegler On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Jim Ziegler wrote: > Donovan and Christophe, > First, thanks for you suggestions. > > I do FTP dbs and other files to the server, so owner and group are > *not* www. However, I use the Access Control Lists to ensure that > www has read and write permissions to all the files. I just double- > checked, and those settings are still correct. It's always worked > for me before... > > Jim > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> Jim Ziegler wrote: >>> Hello, List, >>> I'm baffled, and I can't find anything pertinent in the archives. >>> I'm running WebDNA 6 on Mac OSX Server 10.4.11. >>> Lately, every now and then, WebDNA balks. It does not shut down >>> completely, but certain things stop working. Certain databases >>> won't function, while others do. A certain [copyfile] tag fails. >>> The problems occur on at least two of my WebDNA sites (apparently >>> at the same time). It happened again today, and I found several >>> of these errors in the WebDNA error log stating: >>> Error: Can't open order file. Ignoring [orderfile] context >>> This happened on my shoppingcart page, which normally functions >>> perfectly. >>> One more interesting clue: When the craziness happened today, I >>> flushed databases, and all is well again. >>> Any ideas? >>> Thanks in advance. I'm sorry if I'm not explaining this well. >>> Jim Ziegler >> >> >> Are you doing any manual file uploads that may effect permissions? >> Kinda sounds like a permissions thing. >> >> Donovan >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Tana Adams"

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