Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems
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texte = I have not seen a pattern. The largest database on the server is about 15 mb. I do have "Commit Databases Automatically After Modification" checked. What happens to a database with modifications if it is not committed and the server is rebooted or crashes? Is the newest data lost? Thanks! Tennis On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Christophe Billiottet wrote: > Can you tell if the DB or templates not found by WebDNA show a > specific pattern? place/permissions/UID-GID/ or even corruption? > WebDNA regularely flushes databases and templates on disk. In > "preferences", you have the option to "Automatically commit > databases to disk after modification". This can turn into a heavy > process for large bases with frequent modifications. > > chris > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 14:09, Tennis De Jong wrote: > >> I had a outage yesterday afternoon around 4pm. In looking at the >> error logs I noticed that WebDNA started having problems around >> 1pm. The problems started with not being able to find a >> "ShoppingCarts" folder in a store that has been running for years. >> WebDNA then started having problems finding certain .inc files and >> around 3pm the error log show WebDNA was unable to find and display >> certain .tpl documents. >> >> The server has numerous web sites that share the same .inc >> documents. WebDNA was able to find the .inc documents for 99% of >> the sites. It's very random when it decides it can't find a .inc >> document. The final errors before it totally quit serving pages was >> it's inability to find some databases. Some of these database have >> been on the same server for several years and have never been moved >> or modifieds. It appears WebDNA just decides to stop finding them... >> >> Our server is an Xserve dual 1.33 ghz with 2 gb ram. It has a 320 >> gb hard drive with only 86 gb used. We run iTools 8.2 with WebDNA >> 6.0a >> >> In the past most of our WebDNA outages happened between noon and 2pm. >> >> Regards, >> Tennis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Karl Schroll wrote: >>> We had an outage this morning as well, but it was the same symptom >>> I last reported: template or DB not found for some, but not all, >>> sites. >>> >>> >>> On Apr 13, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Paul Willis wrote: >>> >>>>> OK I had another WebDNA stop this morning at 07:36 GMT - anyone >>>>> else? >>>> >>>> Webdna stopped running for us this morning. CPU was running very >>>> high. WebDNA Monitor was running but all that was being served >>>> was "WebDNA server is not running" message. >>>> >>>> A Whistleblower alert went off at approx 7:14 am BST (GMT+1) >>>> although looking in the server system log there were problems >>>> long before... >>>> >>>> Apr 13 05:21:00 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 05:26:04 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 06:21:58 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 06:51:18 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 06:56:19 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 07:04:28 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> >>>> 2x1GHz XServe running Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 with all the >>>> software updates. >>>> 2GB RAM >>>> 43GB disk space available (of 55GB) >>>> WebDNA unix-Macintosh OS X Apache Module version 6.0a >>>> A bunch of smallish dbs nothing too stressful >>>> No site gets much traffic >>>> No code changes on any of the sites for ages. >>>> >>>> ie: no reason for it to stop working at all that we can see. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list
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I have not seen a pattern. The largest database on the server is about 15 mb. I do have "Commit Databases Automatically After Modification" checked. What happens to a database with modifications if it is not committed and the server is rebooted or crashes? Is the newest data lost? Thanks! Tennis On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Christophe Billiottet wrote: > Can you tell if the DB or templates not found by WebDNA show a > specific pattern? place/permissions/UID-GID/ or even corruption? > WebDNA regularely flushes databases and templates on disk. In > "preferences", you have the option to "Automatically commit > databases to disk after modification". This can turn into a heavy > process for large bases with frequent modifications. > > chris > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 14:09, Tennis De Jong wrote: > >> I had a outage yesterday afternoon around 4pm. In looking at the >> error logs I noticed that WebDNA started having problems around >> 1pm. The problems started with not being able to find a >> "ShoppingCarts" folder in a store that has been running for years. >> WebDNA then started having problems finding certain .inc files and >> around 3pm the error log show WebDNA was unable to find and display >> certain .tpl documents. >> >> The server has numerous web sites that share the same .inc >> documents. WebDNA was able to find the .inc documents for 99% of >> the sites. It's very random when it decides it can't find a .inc >> document. The final errors before it totally quit serving pages was >> it's inability to find some databases. Some of these database have >> been on the same server for several years and have never been moved >> or modifieds. It appears WebDNA just decides to stop finding them... >> >> Our server is an Xserve dual 1.33 ghz with 2 gb ram. It has a 320 >> gb hard drive with only 86 gb used. We run iTools 8.2 with WebDNA >> 6.0a >> >> In the past most of our WebDNA outages happened between noon and 2pm. >> >> Regards, >> Tennis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Karl Schroll wrote: >>> We had an outage this morning as well, but it was the same symptom >>> I last reported: template or DB not found for some, but not all, >>> sites. >>> >>> >>> On Apr 13, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Paul Willis wrote: >>> >>>>> OK I had another WebDNA stop this morning at 07:36 GMT - anyone >>>>> else? >>>> >>>> Webdna stopped running for us this morning. CPU was running very >>>> high. WebDNA Monitor was running but all that was being served >>>> was "WebDNA server is not running" message. >>>> >>>> A Whistleblower alert went off at approx 7:14 am BST (GMT+1) >>>> although looking in the server system log there were problems >>>> long before... >>>> >>>> Apr 13 05:21:00 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 05:26:04 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 06:21:58 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 06:51:18 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 06:56:19 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> Apr 13 07:04:28 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>>> connection with the module. >>>> >>>> 2x1GHz XServe running Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 with all the >>>> software updates. >>>> 2GB RAM >>>> 43GB disk space available (of 55GB) >>>> WebDNA unix-Macintosh OS X Apache Module version 6.0a >>>> A bunch of smallish dbs nothing too stressful >>>> No site gets much traffic >>>> No code changes on any of the sites for ages. >>>> >>>> ie: no reason for it to stop working at all that we can see. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> > >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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