Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems

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texte = It's a possibility we were looking at as well, along with a nasty little bot somewhere... It always seems to happen to us on a Saturday as well. Were still pouring over things to see if we can get a better handle on the frequency, and if it occurs within a specific window. Rob On 9-Apr-08, at 9:53 AM, Alex McCombie wrote: > OK, > I have held back on this idea because there was little to support > it, but > the sudden increase in occurrences and the repetitive and sometimes > simultaneous occurrences may lend some credibility to the idea.... > > I know that the WebDNA system phones home to report serial number > usages. I > do not know any details about how and when it does so, just that it > does. > > I am wondering if a failure to respond from SMSI isn't inherently > causing > some usability issue here. It's entirely possible that the method > by which > the system reports the usage to SMSI is causing some type of hung > process, > or cascading failure in 'offending' server. > > Now, what I don't know, is what type of connection is being made, > what type > of response the license server expects and what type of return > response the > customer servers expect. > > At the risk of sounding paranoid I think that coincidental failures > across > many many machines with different webservers and OS configurations, > coupled > with a company that has seemingly abandoned the product could easily > point > to innocent enough action (we don't need to track serials anymore -- > turn > that thing off) action on SMSI's part. > > > Am I out in left field here? > > Alex > > > > > > > On 4/9/08 10:43 AM, "Steve Craig" wrote: > >> Between myself and a friend who is not on the list, we have 2 WebDNA >> machines and they virtually always go off within an hour of each >> other. I have never coded anything on his and he has never coded >> anything on mine. There are no common sites whatsoever, in fact we >> usually have taken very different ways to solve coding things in the >> past. So basically no connection other than existing in the same >> physical rack. We use the same supplier for access but are on >> different subnets. >>> I think I'll defer to Steve Craig's assessment and just blame it >>> on SMSI attacking our servers! ;-) > > -- > Alex J. McCombie >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> Adventure Skies Interactive >> Box 124 Martville, NY 13111 >> p. 315 .233 .9403 >> e. Alex@AdventureSkies.com >> www.AdventureSkies.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  2. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  3. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Michael A. DeLorenzo" 2008)
  4. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  5. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Robie Blair" 2008)
  6. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  7. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  8. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  9. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Pat McCormick 2008)
  10. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Bob Minor 2008)
  11. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Mark Bergkvist 2008)
  12. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Dennis J. Bonsall, Jr." 2008)
  13. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Lester 2008)
  14. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  15. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Planet DJ (Chris W.)" 2008)
  16. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  17. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Chris 2008)
  18. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  19. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  20. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  21. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  22. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( webmaster 2008)
  23. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  24. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Rob 2008)
  25. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  26. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  27. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Brian B. Burton" 2008)
  28. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( webmaster 2008)
  29. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Vijay-Kumar Solanki" 2008)
  30. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  31. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Vijay-Kumar Solanki 2008)
  32. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Brian B. Burton" 2008)
  33. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  34. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  35. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  36. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  37. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  38. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  39. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  40. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  41. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Grant Hulbert 2008)
  42. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  43. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  44. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  45. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  46. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  47. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  48. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  49. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  50. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  51. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  52. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  53. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  54. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Robert Sweet 2008)
  55. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  56. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  57. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  58. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  59. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Marc Thompson 2008)
  60. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  61. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  62. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  63. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Matthew Bohne 2008)
  64. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  65. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( John Peacock 2008)
  66. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  67. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  68. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  69. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  70. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Vijay-Kumar Solanki 2008)
  71. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  72. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Rob 2008)
  73. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  74. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Dana Keil 2008)
  75. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  76. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Marc Thompson 2008)
  77. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  78. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jym Duane 2008)
  79. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  80. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  81. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  82. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Vijay-Kumar Solanki" 2008)
  83. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Marc Thompson 2008)
  84. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Rob 2008)
  85. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  86. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Atchison 2008)
  87. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  88. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  89. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Palle Bo Nielsen 2008)
  90. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  91. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  92. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  93. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  94. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  95. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  96. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  97. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  98. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  99. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Thierry Almy 2008)
  100. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  101. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  102. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Tana Adams" 2008)
  103. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  104. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Tana Adams" 2008)
  105. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Will Starck" 2008)
  106. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  107. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  108. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  109. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  110. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  111. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  112. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  113. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  114. Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
It's a possibility we were looking at as well, along with a nasty little bot somewhere... It always seems to happen to us on a Saturday as well. Were still pouring over things to see if we can get a better handle on the frequency, and if it occurs within a specific window. Rob On 9-Apr-08, at 9:53 AM, Alex McCombie wrote: > OK, > I have held back on this idea because there was little to support > it, but > the sudden increase in occurrences and the repetitive and sometimes > simultaneous occurrences may lend some credibility to the idea.... > > I know that the WebDNA system phones home to report serial number > usages. I > do not know any details about how and when it does so, just that it > does. > > I am wondering if a failure to respond from SMSI isn't inherently > causing > some usability issue here. It's entirely possible that the method > by which > the system reports the usage to SMSI is causing some type of hung > process, > or cascading failure in 'offending' server. > > Now, what I don't know, is what type of connection is being made, > what type > of response the license server expects and what type of return > response the > customer servers expect. > > At the risk of sounding paranoid I think that coincidental failures > across > many many machines with different webservers and OS configurations, > coupled > with a company that has seemingly abandoned the product could easily > point > to innocent enough action (we don't need to track serials anymore -- > turn > that thing off) action on SMSI's part. > > > Am I out in left field here? > > Alex > > > > > > > On 4/9/08 10:43 AM, "Steve Craig" wrote: > >> Between myself and a friend who is not on the list, we have 2 WebDNA >> machines and they virtually always go off within an hour of each >> other. I have never coded anything on his and he has never coded >> anything on mine. There are no common sites whatsoever, in fact we >> usually have taken very different ways to solve coding things in the >> past. So basically no connection other than existing in the same >> physical rack. We use the same supplier for access but are on >> different subnets. >>> I think I'll defer to Steve Craig's assessment and just blame it >>> on SMSI attacking our servers! ;-) > > -- > Alex J. McCombie >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> Adventure Skies Interactive >> Box 124 Martville, NY 13111 >> p. 315 .233 .9403 >> e. Alex@AdventureSkies.com >> www.AdventureSkies.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Rob

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