Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems

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2008


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texte = Can you tell if the DB or templates not found by WebDNA show a specific pattern? place/permissions/UID-GID/ or even corruption? WebDNA regularely flushes databases and templates on disk. In "preferences", you have the option to "Automatically commit databases to disk after modification". This can turn into a heavy process for large bases with frequent modifications. chris On Apr 13, 2008, at 14:09, Tennis De Jong wrote: > I had a outage yesterday afternoon around 4pm. In looking at the > error logs I noticed that WebDNA started having problems around 1pm. > The problems started with not being able to find a "ShoppingCarts" > folder in a store that has been running for years. WebDNA then > started having problems finding certain .inc files and around 3pm > the error log show WebDNA was unable to find and display > certain .tpl documents. > > The server has numerous web sites that share the same .inc > documents. WebDNA was able to find the .inc documents for 99% of the > sites. It's very random when it decides it can't find a .inc > document. The final errors before it totally quit serving pages was > it's inability to find some databases. Some of these database have > been on the same server for several years and have never been moved > or modifieds. It appears WebDNA just decides to stop finding them... > > Our server is an Xserve dual 1.33 ghz with 2 gb ram. It has a 320 gb > hard drive with only 86 gb used. We run iTools 8.2 with WebDNA 6.0a > > In the past most of our WebDNA outages happened between noon and 2pm. > > Regards, > Tennis > > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Karl Schroll wrote: >> We had an outage this morning as well, but it was the same symptom >> I last reported: template or DB not found for some, but not all, >> sites. >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Paul Willis wrote: >> >>>> OK I had another WebDNA stop this morning at 07:36 GMT - anyone >>>> else? >>> >>> Webdna stopped running for us this morning. CPU was running very >>> high. WebDNA Monitor was running but all that was being served was >>> "WebDNA server is not running" message. >>> >>> A Whistleblower alert went off at approx 7:14 am BST (GMT+1) >>> although looking in the server system log there were problems long >>> before... >>> >>> Apr 13 05:21:00 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 05:26:04 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 06:21:58 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 06:51:18 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 06:56:19 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 07:04:28 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> >>> 2x1GHz XServe running Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 with all the >>> software updates. >>> 2GB RAM >>> 43GB disk space available (of 55GB) >>> WebDNA unix-Macintosh OS X Apache Module version 6.0a >>> A bunch of smallish dbs nothing too stressful >>> No site gets much traffic >>> No code changes on any of the sites for ages. >>> >>> ie: no reason for it to stop working at all that we can see. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  2. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  3. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Michael A. DeLorenzo" 2008)
  4. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  5. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Robie Blair" 2008)
  6. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  7. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  8. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  9. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Pat McCormick 2008)
  10. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Bob Minor 2008)
  11. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Mark Bergkvist 2008)
  12. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Dennis J. Bonsall, Jr." 2008)
  13. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Lester 2008)
  14. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  15. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( "Planet DJ (Chris W.)" 2008)
  16. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  17. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Chris 2008)
  18. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  19. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  20. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  21. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  22. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( webmaster 2008)
  23. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  24. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Rob 2008)
  25. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems Workaround ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  26. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  27. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Brian B. Burton" 2008)
  28. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( webmaster 2008)
  29. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Vijay-Kumar Solanki" 2008)
  30. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  31. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Vijay-Kumar Solanki 2008)
  32. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Brian B. Burton" 2008)
  33. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  34. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  35. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  36. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  37. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  38. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  39. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  40. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  41. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Grant Hulbert 2008)
  42. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  43. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  44. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Colin Sidwell 2008)
  45. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  46. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  47. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  48. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  49. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  50. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  51. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  52. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  53. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  54. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Robert Sweet 2008)
  55. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  56. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  57. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  58. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  59. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Marc Thompson 2008)
  60. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  61. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  62. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  63. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Matthew Bohne 2008)
  64. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Tennis De Jong 2008)
  65. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( John Peacock 2008)
  66. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  67. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  68. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Karl Schroll 2008)
  69. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  70. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Vijay-Kumar Solanki 2008)
  71. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  72. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Rob 2008)
  73. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  74. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Dana Keil 2008)
  75. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  76. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Marc Thompson 2008)
  77. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Minor 2008)
  78. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jym Duane 2008)
  79. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  80. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  81. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  82. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Vijay-Kumar Solanki" 2008)
  83. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Marc Thompson 2008)
  84. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Rob 2008)
  85. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Alex McCombie 2008)
  86. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Bob Atchison 2008)
  87. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  88. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  89. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Palle Bo Nielsen 2008)
  90. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  91. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  92. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  93. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Phil Herring 2008)
  94. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  95. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  96. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  97. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Steve Craig 2008)
  98. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  99. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Thierry Almy 2008)
  100. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  101. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Stuart Tremain 2008)
  102. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Tana Adams" 2008)
  103. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  104. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Tana Adams" 2008)
  105. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( "Will Starck" 2008)
  106. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Paul Willis 2008)
  107. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  108. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Terry Wilson 2008)
  109. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  110. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Christer Olsson 2008)
  111. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
  112. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Donovan Brooke 2008)
  113. Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Chris 2008)
  114. Strange intermittent WebDNA problems ( Jim Ziegler 2008)
Can you tell if the DB or templates not found by WebDNA show a specific pattern? place/permissions/UID-GID/ or even corruption? WebDNA regularely flushes databases and templates on disk. In "preferences", you have the option to "Automatically commit databases to disk after modification". This can turn into a heavy process for large bases with frequent modifications. chris On Apr 13, 2008, at 14:09, Tennis De Jong wrote: > I had a outage yesterday afternoon around 4pm. In looking at the > error logs I noticed that WebDNA started having problems around 1pm. > The problems started with not being able to find a "ShoppingCarts" > folder in a store that has been running for years. WebDNA then > started having problems finding certain .inc files and around 3pm > the error log show WebDNA was unable to find and display > certain .tpl documents. > > The server has numerous web sites that share the same .inc > documents. WebDNA was able to find the .inc documents for 99% of the > sites. It's very random when it decides it can't find a .inc > document. The final errors before it totally quit serving pages was > it's inability to find some databases. Some of these database have > been on the same server for several years and have never been moved > or modifieds. It appears WebDNA just decides to stop finding them... > > Our server is an Xserve dual 1.33 ghz with 2 gb ram. It has a 320 gb > hard drive with only 86 gb used. We run iTools 8.2 with WebDNA 6.0a > > In the past most of our WebDNA outages happened between noon and 2pm. > > Regards, > Tennis > > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Karl Schroll wrote: >> We had an outage this morning as well, but it was the same symptom >> I last reported: template or DB not found for some, but not all, >> sites. >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Paul Willis wrote: >> >>>> OK I had another WebDNA stop this morning at 07:36 GMT - anyone >>>> else? >>> >>> Webdna stopped running for us this morning. CPU was running very >>> high. WebDNA Monitor was running but all that was being served was >>> "WebDNA server is not running" message. >>> >>> A Whistleblower alert went off at approx 7:14 am BST (GMT+1) >>> although looking in the server system log there were problems long >>> before... >>> >>> Apr 13 05:21:00 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 05:26:04 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 06:21:58 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 06:51:18 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 06:56:19 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> Apr 13 07:04:28 callisto WebDNA[309]: Could not establish >>> connection with the module. >>> >>> 2x1GHz XServe running Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 with all the >>> software updates. >>> 2GB RAM >>> 43GB disk space available (of 55GB) >>> WebDNA unix-Macintosh OS X Apache Module version 6.0a >>> A bunch of smallish dbs nothing too stressful >>> No site gets much traffic >>> No code changes on any of the sites for ages. >>> >>> ie: no reason for it to stop working at all that we can see. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Christophe Billiottet

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