Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems

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texte = You can always add SaveonComplete=F to a sendmail Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 09/04/2008, at 12:27 PM, Jim Ziegler wrote: > 50GB free on one drive; 97GB free on the other. > WebDNA is using 335MB real and 386MB of virtual memory. The server > has 2GB RAM, and right now about 600MB is inactive. > I just now cleaned out a couple thousand emails from the "completed" > folder. My trigger to delete them after 30 days wasn't working > (oops) but is now. > Jim Ziegler > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Tana Adams wrote: >> This type of thing has happened to us as well -- for a while. We >> finally >> determined it had to be lack of disk space. We go in, clear away >> some log >> files and emails and it works fine (until it happens again a couple >> of >> months later). >> >> You're lucky if you haven't lost any data because this sometimes >> does happen >> with us -- not that often but it has happened. The last few >> hundred records >> will just be gone because WebCat stopped right in the middle of it >> writing >> to the database. >> >> Anyway, I hope this helps. >> >> Tana >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On >> Behalf Of Will >> Starck >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:40 PM >> To: WebDNA Talk >> Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems >> >> Are you sure you're not running out of RAM? Running out of disk >> space? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Will >> >> PS: I was going to comment on an intermittent WebDNA problem I have >> been >> having since about 2004, but I reached my smartass quotient today >> already, >> so I kept my thoughts to myself... >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On >> Behalf Of Jim >> Ziegler >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:00 AM >> To: WebDNA Talk >> Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems >> >> I think that all the databases that are usually affected are using >> an .hdr file. Many of my other dbs are in merge format. I'm almost >> certain that all the fields in the .hdrs match the fields in the .dbs >> ('cause the dbs wouldn't work at all if the fields didn't match), but >> I guess I'll check again . Does anyone have any caveats on using hdr >> files vs. embedding the field names in the dbs? >> >> Thanks. >> Jim Ziegler >> >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Jim Ziegler wrote: >>> Donovan and Christophe, >>> First, thanks for you suggestions. >>> >>> I do FTP dbs and other files to the server, so owner and group are >>> *not* www. However, I use the Access Control Lists to ensure that >>> www has read and write permissions to all the files. I just double- >>> checked, and those settings are still correct. It's always worked >>> for me before... >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> Jim Ziegler wrote: >>>>> Hello, List, >>>>> I'm baffled, and I can't find anything pertinent in the archives. >>>>> I'm running WebDNA 6 on Mac OSX Server 10.4.11. >>>>> Lately, every now and then, WebDNA balks. It does not shut down >>>>> completely, but certain things stop working. Certain databases >>>>> won't function, while others do. A certain [copyfile] tag fails. >>>>> The problems occur on at least two of my WebDNA sites (apparently >>>>> at the same time). It happened again today, and I found several >>>>> of these errors in the WebDNA error log stating: >>>>> Error: Can't open order file. Ignoring [OrderFile] context >>>>> This happened on my shoppingcart page, which normally functions >>>>> perfectly. >>>>> One more interesting clue: When the craziness happened today, I >>>>> flushed databases, and all is well again. >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> Thanks in advance. I'm sorry if I'm not explaining this well. >>>>> Jim Ziegler >>>> >>>> >>>> Are you doing any manual file uploads that may effect permissions? >>>> Kinda sounds like a permissions thing. >>>> >>>> Donovan >>>> >>>> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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You can always add SaveonComplete=F to a sendmail Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 09/04/2008, at 12:27 PM, Jim Ziegler wrote: > 50GB free on one drive; 97GB free on the other. > WebDNA is using 335MB real and 386MB of virtual memory. The server > has 2GB RAM, and right now about 600MB is inactive. > I just now cleaned out a couple thousand emails from the "completed" > folder. My trigger to delete them after 30 days wasn't working > (oops) but is now. > Jim Ziegler > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Tana Adams wrote: >> This type of thing has happened to us as well -- for a while. We >> finally >> determined it had to be lack of disk space. We go in, clear away >> some log >> files and emails and it works fine (until it happens again a couple >> of >> months later). >> >> You're lucky if you haven't lost any data because this sometimes >> does happen >> with us -- not that often but it has happened. The last few >> hundred records >> will just be gone because WebCat stopped right in the middle of it >> writing >> to the database. >> >> Anyway, I hope this helps. >> >> Tana >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On >> Behalf Of Will >> Starck >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:40 PM >> To: WebDNA Talk >> Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems >> >> Are you sure you're not running out of RAM? Running out of disk >> space? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Will >> >> PS: I was going to comment on an intermittent WebDNA problem I have >> been >> having since about 2004, but I reached my smartass quotient today >> already, >> so I kept my thoughts to myself... >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On >> Behalf Of Jim >> Ziegler >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:00 AM >> To: WebDNA Talk >> Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems >> >> I think that all the databases that are usually affected are using >> an .hdr file. Many of my other dbs are in merge format. I'm almost >> certain that all the fields in the .hdrs match the fields in the .dbs >> ('cause the dbs wouldn't work at all if the fields didn't match), but >> I guess I'll check again . Does anyone have any caveats on using hdr >> files vs. embedding the field names in the dbs? >> >> Thanks. >> Jim Ziegler >> >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Jim Ziegler wrote: >>> Donovan and Christophe, >>> First, thanks for you suggestions. >>> >>> I do FTP dbs and other files to the server, so owner and group are >>> *not* www. However, I use the Access Control Lists to ensure that >>> www has read and write permissions to all the files. I just double- >>> checked, and those settings are still correct. It's always worked >>> for me before... >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> Jim Ziegler wrote: >>>>> Hello, List, >>>>> I'm baffled, and I can't find anything pertinent in the archives. >>>>> I'm running WebDNA 6 on Mac OSX Server 10.4.11. >>>>> Lately, every now and then, WebDNA balks. It does not shut down >>>>> completely, but certain things stop working. Certain databases >>>>> won't function, while others do. A certain [copyfile] tag fails. >>>>> The problems occur on at least two of my WebDNA sites (apparently >>>>> at the same time). It happened again today, and I found several >>>>> of these errors in the WebDNA error log stating: >>>>> Error: Can't open order file. Ignoring [orderfile] context >>>>> This happened on my shoppingcart page, which normally functions >>>>> perfectly. >>>>> One more interesting clue: When the craziness happened today, I >>>>> flushed databases, and all is well again. >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> Thanks in advance. I'm sorry if I'm not explaining this well. >>>>> Jim Ziegler >>>> >>>> >>>> Are you doing any manual file uploads that may effect permissions? >>>> Kinda sounds like a permissions thing. >>>> >>>> Donovan >>>> >>>> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Stuart Tremain

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