Re: WebDNA Book?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Brian,Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?).A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could share in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing brand (i.e. '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer interest in the product by the simple fact that it exists. If I wasn't familiar with WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies section in Borders Books (like I do from time to time -- I own Javascript and DOS for Dummies and I use them both all the time.. and I can remember picking up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The Fun and Easy Way to Create Attractive, Effective Web Applications ... or whatever... I would DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely buy it, if I was interested in webdev (which I am). Maybe even include a CD with the Developer Edition installers for each platform as well as the Onbline Command Reference (betadoc), and links to SM's website, etc. etc.But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is 'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need a WebDNA knowledgeable editor...Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this morning and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back to work. ;)-Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 Brian B. Burton
wrote: >Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( > >I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been underwhelming. I guess it's kind >of like being a shareware author, everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. > >The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along with the experience needed to >write such a guide makes to limited to a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be >arrogant, but it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have to figure out how >many copies you can sell to recoup your investment of time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 >copies. Some people think they know everything, some people wouldn't spend the money (I estimate >it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to even get close to break even vs. selling the same time >being a programmer), and some people will share, thus depriving yours truly of funds needed to >eat lunch, and I've already done the starving artist part of my life... > >But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my book, adding and incrementing it. >I'm up to about twice the content and am just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I >just don't have the new content online anywhere at this time. > > >If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// webdna.burtons.com > > >Brian B. Burton >Burton Logistics >973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) > > > >On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >>Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>resources. >> >> >>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >> Sales wrote: >>> Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, but >>>I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, especially >>>with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on Amazon, but found >>>nothing. >>> >>> If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>> >>> I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be nice >>>to have a good tutorial in hand. > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Brian,Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?).A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could share in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing brand (i.e. '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer interest in the product by the simple fact that it exists. If I wasn't familiar with WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies section in Borders Books (like I do from time to time -- I own Javascript and DOS for Dummies and I use them both all the time.. and I can remember picking up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The Fun and Easy Way to Create Attractive, Effective Web Applications ... or whatever... I would DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely buy it, if I was interested in webdev (which I am). Maybe even include a CD with the Developer Edition installers for each platform as well as the Onbline Command Reference (betadoc), and links to SM's website, etc. etc.But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is 'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need a WebDNA knowledgeable editor...Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this morning and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back to work. ;)-Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 Brian B. Burton wrote: >Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( > >I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been underwhelming. I guess it's kind >of like being a shareware author, everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. > >The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along with the experience needed to >write such a guide makes to limited to a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be >arrogant, but it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have to figure out how >many copies you can sell to recoup your investment of time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 >copies. Some people think they know everything, some people wouldn't spend the money (I estimate >it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to even get close to break even vs. selling the same time >being a programmer), and some people will share, thus depriving yours truly of funds needed to >eat lunch, and I've already done the starving artist part of my life... > >But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my book, adding and incrementing it. >I'm up to about twice the content and am just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I >just don't have the new content online anywhere at this time. > > >If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// webdna.burtons.com > > >Brian B. Burton >Burton Logistics >973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) > > > >On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >>Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>resources. >> >> >>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >> Sales wrote: >>> Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, but >>>I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, especially >>>with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on Amazon, but found >>>nothing. >>> >>> If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>> >>> I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be nice >>>to have a good tutorial in hand. > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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