Re: WebDNA Book?
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texte = Ah ha. thanks... and to think I've been a 'dummy' for so long ;) -DanOn Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:51:30 Charles Kline
wrote: >wrox does a series of books called programmer to programmer - pretty good books. > >http://www.wrox.com/ > >- Charles > >On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >>What is 'wrox'? >>-Dan >> >>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:46:34 >> Charles Kline wrote: >>>or maybe wrox? i would be willing to work on this project if we got >>>some funding. >>> >>>- ck >>> >>>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>> >>>>Brian, >>>> >>>>Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. >>>>While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for >>>>Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the >>>>author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and >>>>they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM >>>>and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?). >>>> >>>>A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could >>>>share in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing >>>>brand (i.e. '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer >>>>interest in the product by the simple fact that it exists. If I >>>>wasn't familiar with WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies >>>>section in Borders Books (like I do from time to time -- I own >>>>Javascript and DOS for Dummies and I use them both all the time.. >>>>and I can remember picking up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and >>>>I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The >>>>Fun and Easy Way to Create Attractive, Effective Web Applications >>>>... or whatever... I would DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely >>>>buy it, if I was interested in webdev (which I am). Maybe even >>>>include a CD with the Developer Edition installers for each platform >>>>as well as the Onbline Command Reference (betadoc), and links to >>>>SM's website, etc. etc. >>>> >>>>But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why >>>>don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely >>>>couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is >>>>'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need >>>>a WebDNA knowledgeable editor... >>>> >>>>Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a >>>>look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this >>>>morning and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back >>>>to work. ;) >>>> >>>>-Dan >>>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >>>>(208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >>>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 >>>>Brian B. Burton wrote: >>>>>Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( >>>>> >>>>>I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been >>>>>underwhelming. I guess it's kind of like being a shareware author, >>>>>everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. >>>>> >>>>>The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along >>>>>with the experience needed to write such a guide makes to limited >>>>>to a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be arrogant, >>>>>but it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have >>>>>to figure out how many copies you can sell to recoup your >>>>>investment of time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 copies. >>>>>Some people think they know everything, some people wouldn't spend >>>>>the money (I estimate it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to >>>>>even get close to break even vs. selling the same time being a >>>>>programmer), and some people will share, thus depriving yours truly >>>>>of funds needed to eat lunch, and I've already done the starving >>>>>artist part of my life... >>>>> >>>>>But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my >>>>>book, adding and incrementing it. I'm up to about twice the content >>>>>and am just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I just >>>>>don't have the new content online anywhere at this time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// >>>>>webdna.burtons.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Brian B. Burton >>>>>Burton Logistics >>>>>973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>>>>>Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>>>>>resources. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >>>>>>Sales wrote: >>>>>>>Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, >>>>>>>but I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, >>>>>>>especially with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on >>>>>>>Amazon, but found nothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>>>>>language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be >>>>>>>nice to have a good tutorial in hand. >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Ah ha. thanks... and to think I've been a 'dummy' for so long ;) -DanOn Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:51:30 Charles Kline wrote: >wrox does a series of books called programmer to programmer - pretty good books. > >http://www.wrox.com/ > >- Charles > >On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >>What is 'wrox'? >>-Dan >> >>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:46:34 >> Charles Kline wrote: >>>or maybe wrox? i would be willing to work on this project if we got >>>some funding. >>> >>>- ck >>> >>>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>> >>>>Brian, >>>> >>>>Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. >>>>While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for >>>>Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the >>>>author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and >>>>they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM >>>>and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?). >>>> >>>>A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could >>>>share in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing >>>>brand (i.e. '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer >>>>interest in the product by the simple fact that it exists. If I >>>>wasn't familiar with WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies >>>>section in Borders Books (like I do from time to time -- I own >>>>Javascript and DOS for Dummies and I use them both all the time.. >>>>and I can remember picking up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and >>>>I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The >>>>Fun and Easy Way to Create Attractive, Effective Web Applications >>>>... or whatever... I would DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely >>>>buy it, if I was interested in webdev (which I am). Maybe even >>>>include a CD with the Developer Edition installers for each platform >>>>as well as the Onbline Command Reference (betadoc), and links to >>>>SM's website, etc. etc. >>>> >>>>But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why >>>>don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely >>>>couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is >>>>'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need >>>>a WebDNA knowledgeable editor... >>>> >>>>Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a >>>>look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this >>>>morning and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back >>>>to work. ;) >>>> >>>>-Dan >>>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >>>>(208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >>>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 >>>>Brian B. Burton wrote: >>>>>Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( >>>>> >>>>>I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been >>>>>underwhelming. I guess it's kind of like being a shareware author, >>>>>everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. >>>>> >>>>>The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along >>>>>with the experience needed to write such a guide makes to limited >>>>>to a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be arrogant, >>>>>but it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have >>>>>to figure out how many copies you can sell to recoup your >>>>>investment of time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 copies. >>>>>Some people think they know everything, some people wouldn't spend >>>>>the money (I estimate it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to >>>>>even get close to break even vs. selling the same time being a >>>>>programmer), and some people will share, thus depriving yours truly >>>>>of funds needed to eat lunch, and I've already done the starving >>>>>artist part of my life... >>>>> >>>>>But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my >>>>>book, adding and incrementing it. I'm up to about twice the content >>>>>and am just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I just >>>>>don't have the new content online anywhere at this time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// >>>>>webdna.burtons.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Brian B. Burton >>>>>Burton Logistics >>>>>973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>>>>>Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>>>>>resources. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >>>>>>Sales wrote: >>>>>>>Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, >>>>>>>but I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, >>>>>>>especially with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on >>>>>>>Amazon, but found nothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>>>>>language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be >>>>>>>nice to have a good tutorial in hand. >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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