Re: WebDNA Book?
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texte = roflmao!damn - thought it was l33t for rocks... but then the context was all wrong - talk lists seem to have there very own codeI'm gonna hide back under my stone for a while... -- Regards, Marko ------------------------------------------------------------------ Marko Bernyk - Senior System Engineer mailto:marko@conexus.com.au http://www.conexus.com.au Technical Services, Conexus Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia Ph 02 9975 2799 Fax 02 9975 2799 :) ------------------------------------------------------------------On Friday, 7 February 2003 9:53 AM, Dan Strong
wrote: >Ah ha. thanks... and to think I've been a 'dummy' for so long ;) >-Dan > >On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:51:30 > Charles Kline wrote: >>wrox does a series of books called programmer to programmer - pretty good books. >> >>http://www.wrox.com/ >> >>- Charles >> >>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>>What is 'wrox'? >>>-Dan >>> >>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:46:34 >>> Charles Kline wrote: >>>>or maybe wrox? i would be willing to work on this project if we got >>>>some funding. >>>> >>>>- ck >>>> >>>>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>> >>>>>Brian, >>>>> >>>>>Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. >>>>>While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for >>>>>Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the >>>>>author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and >>>>>they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM >>>>>and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?). >>>>> >>>>>A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could >>>>>share in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing >>>>>brand (i.e. '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer >>>>>interest in the product by the simple fact that it exists. If I >>>>>wasn't familiar with WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies >>>>>section in Borders Books (like I do from time to time -- I own >>>>>Javascript and DOS for Dummies and I use them both all the time.. >>>>>and I can remember picking up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and >>>>>I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The >>>>>Fun and Easy Way to Create Attractive, Effective Web Applications >>>>>... or whatever... I would DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely >>>>>buy it, if I was interested in webdev (which I am). Maybe even >>>>>include a CD with the Developer Edition installers for each platform >>>>>as well as the Onbline Command Reference (betadoc), and links to >>>>>SM's website, etc. etc. >>>>> >>>>>But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why >>>>>don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely >>>>>couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is >>>>>'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need >>>>>a WebDNA knowledgeable editor... >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a >>>>>look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this >>>>>morning and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back >>>>>to work. ;) >>>>> >>>>>-Dan >>>>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >>>>>(208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >>>>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 >>>>>Brian B. Burton wrote: >>>>>>Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( >>>>>> >>>>>>I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been >>>>>>underwhelming. I guess it's kind of like being a shareware author, >>>>>>everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. >>>>>> >>>>>>The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along >>>>>>with the experience needed to write such a guide makes to limited >>>>>>to a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be arrogant, >>>>>>but it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have >>>>>>to figure out how many copies you can sell to recoup your >>>>>>investment of time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 copies. >>>>>>Some people think they know everything, some people wouldn't spend >>>>>>the money (I estimate it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to >>>>>>even get close to break even vs. selling the same time being a >>>>>>programmer), and some people will share, thus depriving yours truly >>>>>>of funds needed to eat lunch, and I've already done the starving >>>>>>artist part of my life... >>>>>> >>>>>>But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my >>>>>>book, adding and incrementing it. I'm up to about twice the content >>>>>>and am just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I just >>>>>>don't have the new content online anywhere at this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// >>>>>>webdna.burtons.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Brian B. Burton >>>>>>Burton Logistics >>>>>>973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>>>>>>Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>>>>>>resources. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >>>>>>>Sales wrote: >>>>>>>>Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, >>>>>>>>but I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, >>>>>>>>especially with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on >>>>>>>>Amazon, but found nothing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>>>>>>language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be >>>>>>>>nice to have a good tutorial in hand. >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > >------------------------------------------------------------ >http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >(208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >------------------------------------------------------------ > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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roflmao!damn - thought it was l33t for rocks... but then the context was all wrong - Talk Lists seem to have there very own codeI'm gonna hide back under my stone for a while... -- Regards, Marko ------------------------------------------------------------------ Marko Bernyk - Senior System Engineer mailto:marko@conexus.com.au http://www.conexus.com.au Technical Services, Conexus Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia Ph 02 9975 2799 Fax 02 9975 2799 :) ------------------------------------------------------------------On Friday, 7 February 2003 9:53 AM, Dan Strong wrote: >Ah ha. thanks... and to think I've been a 'dummy' for so long ;) >-Dan > >On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:51:30 > Charles Kline wrote: >>wrox does a series of books called programmer to programmer - pretty good books. >> >>http://www.wrox.com/ >> >>- Charles >> >>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>>What is 'wrox'? >>>-Dan >>> >>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:46:34 >>> Charles Kline wrote: >>>>or maybe wrox? i would be willing to work on this project if we got >>>>some funding. >>>> >>>>- ck >>>> >>>>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>> >>>>>Brian, >>>>> >>>>>Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. >>>>>While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for >>>>>Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the >>>>>author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and >>>>>they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM >>>>>and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?). >>>>> >>>>>A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could >>>>>share in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing >>>>>brand (i.e. '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer >>>>>interest in the product by the simple fact that it exists. If I >>>>>wasn't familiar with WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies >>>>>section in Borders Books (like I do from time to time -- I own >>>>>Javascript and DOS for Dummies and I use them both all the time.. >>>>>and I can remember picking up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and >>>>>I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The >>>>>Fun and Easy Way to Create Attractive, Effective Web Applications >>>>>... or whatever... I would DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely >>>>>buy it, if I was interested in webdev (which I am). Maybe even >>>>>include a CD with the Developer Edition installers for each platform >>>>>as well as the Onbline Command Reference (betadoc), and links to >>>>>SM's website, etc. etc. >>>>> >>>>>But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why >>>>>don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely >>>>>couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is >>>>>'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need >>>>>a WebDNA knowledgeable editor... >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a >>>>>look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this >>>>>morning and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back >>>>>to work. ;) >>>>> >>>>>-Dan >>>>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >>>>>(208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >>>>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 >>>>>Brian B. Burton wrote: >>>>>>Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( >>>>>> >>>>>>I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been >>>>>>underwhelming. I guess it's kind of like being a shareware author, >>>>>>everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. >>>>>> >>>>>>The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along >>>>>>with the experience needed to write such a guide makes to limited >>>>>>to a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be arrogant, >>>>>>but it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have >>>>>>to figure out how many copies you can sell to recoup your >>>>>>investment of time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 copies. >>>>>>Some people think they know everything, some people wouldn't spend >>>>>>the money (I estimate it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to >>>>>>even get close to break even vs. selling the same time being a >>>>>>programmer), and some people will share, thus depriving yours truly >>>>>>of funds needed to eat lunch, and I've already done the starving >>>>>>artist part of my life... >>>>>> >>>>>>But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my >>>>>>book, adding and incrementing it. I'm up to about twice the content >>>>>>and am just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I just >>>>>>don't have the new content online anywhere at this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// >>>>>>webdna.burtons.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Brian B. Burton >>>>>>Burton Logistics >>>>>>973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>>>>>>Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>>>>>>resources. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >>>>>>>Sales wrote: >>>>>>>>Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, >>>>>>>>but I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, >>>>>>>>especially with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on >>>>>>>>Amazon, but found nothing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>>>>>>language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be >>>>>>>>nice to have a good tutorial in hand. >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > >------------------------------------------------------------ >http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >(208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >------------------------------------------------------------ > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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