Re: WebDNA Book?

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texte = or maybe wrox? i would be willing to work on this project if we got some funding.- ckOn Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Dan Strong wrote:> Brian, > > Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. > While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for > Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the > author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and > they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM > and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?). > > A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could share > in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing brand (i.e. > '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer interest in the > product by the simple fact that it exists. If I wasn't familiar with > WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies section in Borders > Books (like I do from time to time -- I own Javascript and DOS for > Dummies and I use them both all the time.. and I can remember picking > up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- > A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The Fun and Easy Way to Create > Attractive, Effective Web Applications ... or whatever... I would > DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely buy it, if I was interested in > webdev (which I am). Maybe even include a CD with the Developer > Edition installers for each platform as well as the Onbline Command > Reference (betadoc), and links to SM's website, etc. etc. > > But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why > don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely > couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is > 'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need a > WebDNA knowledgeable editor... > > Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a > look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this morning > and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back to work. > ;) > > -Dan > ------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com > (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 > Brian B. Burton wrote: >> Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( >> >> I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been >> underwhelming. I guess it's kind of like being a shareware author, >> everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. >> >> The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along >> with the experience needed to write such a guide makes to limited to >> a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be arrogant, but >> it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have to >> figure out how many copies you can sell to recoup your investment of >> time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 copies. Some people think >> they know everything, some people wouldn't spend the money (I >> estimate it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to even get close to >> break even vs. selling the same time being a programmer), and some >> people will share, thus depriving yours truly of funds needed to eat >> lunch, and I've already done the starving artist part of my life... >> >> But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my book, >> adding and incrementing it. I'm up to about twice the content and am >> just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I just don't >> have the new content online anywhere at this time. >> >> >> If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// >> webdna.burtons.com >> >> >> Brian B. Burton >> Burton Logistics >> 973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) >> >> >> >> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>> Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>> resources. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >>> Sales wrote: >>>> Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, but >>>> I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, >>>> especially with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on >>>> Amazon, but found nothing. >>>> >>>> If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>> language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>>> >>>> I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be nice >>>> to have a good tutorial in hand. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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  2. Re: WebDNA Book? (Dan Strong 2003)
  3. Re: WebDNA Book? (Gary Krockover 2003)
  4. Re: WebDNA Book? (Charles Kline 2003)
  5. Re: WebDNA Book? (Donovan 2003)
  6. Re: WebDNA Book? (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  7. Re: WebDNA Book? (Clint Davis 2003)
  8. Re: WebDNA Book? (Kenneth Grome 2003)
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  11. Re: WebDNA Book? (Stuart Tremain 2003)
  12. Re: WebDNA Book? (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  13. Re: WebDNA Book? (Marko Bernyk 2003)
  14. Re: WebDNA Book? (Dan Strong 2003)
  15. Re: WebDNA Book? (Charles Kline 2003)
  16. Re: WebDNA Book? (Dan Strong 2003)
  17. Re: WebDNA Book? (Charles Kline 2003)
  18. Re: WebDNA Book? (Dan Strong 2003)
  19. Re: WebDNA Book? (Brian B. Burton 2003)
  20. Re: WebDNA Book? (Brian Boegershausen 2003)
  21. Re: WebDNA Book? (Charles Kline 2003)
  22. Re: WebDNA Book? (Gary Krockover 2003)
  23. Re: WebDNA Book? (Dan Strong 2003)
  24. WebDNA Book? (Sales 2003)
or maybe wrox? i would be willing to work on this project if we got some funding.- ckOn Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Dan Strong wrote:> Brian, > > Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. > While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for > Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the > author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and > they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM > and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?). > > A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could share > in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing brand (i.e. > '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer interest in the > product by the simple fact that it exists. If I wasn't familiar with > WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies section in Borders > Books (like I do from time to time -- I own Javascript and DOS for > Dummies and I use them both all the time.. and I can remember picking > up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- > A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The Fun and Easy Way to Create > Attractive, Effective Web Applications ... or whatever... I would > DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely buy it, if I was interested in > webdev (which I am). Maybe even include a CD with the Developer > Edition installers for each platform as well as the Onbline Command > Reference (betadoc), and links to SM's website, etc. etc. > > But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why > don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely > couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is > 'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need a > WebDNA knowledgeable editor... > > Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a > look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this morning > and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back to work. > ;) > > -Dan > ------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com > (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 > Brian B. Burton wrote: >> Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( >> >> I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been >> underwhelming. I guess it's kind of like being a shareware author, >> everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. >> >> The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along >> with the experience needed to write such a guide makes to limited to >> a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be arrogant, but >> it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have to >> figure out how many copies you can sell to recoup your investment of >> time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 copies. Some people think >> they know everything, some people wouldn't spend the money (I >> estimate it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to even get close to >> break even vs. selling the same time being a programmer), and some >> people will share, thus depriving yours truly of funds needed to eat >> lunch, and I've already done the starving artist part of my life... >> >> But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my book, >> adding and incrementing it. I'm up to about twice the content and am >> just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I just don't >> have the new content online anywhere at this time. >> >> >> If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// >> webdna.burtons.com >> >> >> Brian B. Burton >> Burton Logistics >> 973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) >> >> >> >> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>> Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>> resources. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >>> Sales wrote: >>>> Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, but >>>> I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, >>>> especially with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on >>>> Amazon, but found nothing. >>>> >>>> If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>> language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>>> >>>> I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be nice >>>> to have a good tutorial in hand. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Charles Kline

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