Re: What really killed WebDNA?

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2007


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texte = At one point, I guess not long after SMSI took over Webcatalog...errrrrr,= WebDNA from PCS, they "looked" like they were going to make something of= it. New version came out as I recall, new website with a little forum and= a place to upload snippets, etc. I suppose that they didn't get the= response that they were looking for or just decided that selling Fish-Tank= Screensavers was more profitable because they've all but abandoned the= product now. With so many free PHP templates that customers can set up and webhosting for= $8.99 /mo with all the bells and whistles, my business has all but dried up= so I'll be moving on. I have a few leads on some (unrelated) job= opportunities - I'm moving away from IT stuff as I'm just getting too old= to learn new tricks. I really would hope that SMSI would open source the product, but= realistically, what incentive do they have to do so? They could offer an= open source version and a pay version, but if the OS community becomes= active and adds all kinds of stuff, who's going to pay for the high dollar= version? At any rate, I'm not leaving the list here, I've chatted with you guys for= too many years. I'll still take the occasional Webcat project when they= come along, but I can no longer sustain myself financially on doing this= alone (honestly, I should of moved on over a year ago but I kept= hoping....). I feel like I should write a "farewell cruel world" as in a suicide note= here.... :) :) G. At 09:58 PM 10/18/2007, you wrote: >...SmithMicro offering "support"? > >Waa-haa-haa! > >Best laugh in a whole year (with tears in my eyes and all)... > >But I'm 100% for open sourcing WebDNA to finally set it free from =20 >it's current dead end. > >Excellent message, > > >Le 07-10-18 =E0 22:52, Vincent Medina a =E9crit : > >>Absolutely there should be an open source project opened. WebDNA is =20 >>SOOOOO >>easy to do what other languages take lines and lines of code. SM =20 >>should >>offer a CE (Community Edition - FREE) and a Pro version which includes >>product support etc. It is the smart thing to do and shouldn't cost =20 >>them >>anything and they still retain the rights! >> >>I still remember other coders messing with Cold Fusion and other =20 >>CGI apps >>trying to get a simple functional shopping cart working. I went out =20 >>on the >>net and found Pacific Cost Software spent $600 for a license and =20 >>had a cart >>working in 2 hours with no coding experience! It would be such a =20 >>shame to >>see this product die....... >> >>Vince >>APCN >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On =20 >>Behalf Of Will >>Starck >>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:42 PM >>To: WebDNA Talk >>Subject: What really killed WebDNA? >> >>Hello- >> >>So, I've finally come to terms with the fact that WebDNA died round =20 >>about >>2004 give or take a few days. >> >>Aside from the fact that SMSI was always a terrible fit for this =20 >>product (my >>apologies SM, but it's true), I've often wondered-what exactly was =20 >>it that >>killed WebDNA (btw, I always hated that name)? >> >>I've always been curious about that question. >> >>Was there a technical reason (i.e. inability to integrate it to =20 >>emerging web >>development trends, lack of new potential features that would justify >>further upgrade cycles) or did SM just lose interest, or is/are =20 >>there some >>other reason(s)? >> >>I'd be interested in your theories - is there any reason to push =20 >>for an open >>source version, or should this dead horse stay dead because it is >>irrelevant? >> >>Your long suffering friend, >> >>Will Starck >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to= >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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At one point, I guess not long after SMSI took over Webcatalog...errrrrr,= WebDNA from PCS, they "looked" like they were going to make something of= it. New version came out as I recall, new website with a little forum and= a place to upload snippets, etc. I suppose that they didn't get the= response that they were looking for or just decided that selling Fish-Tank= Screensavers was more profitable because they've all but abandoned the= product now. With so many free PHP templates that customers can set up and webhosting for= $8.99 /mo with all the bells and whistles, my business has all but dried up= so I'll be moving on. I have a few leads on some (unrelated) job= opportunities - I'm moving away from IT stuff as I'm just getting too old= to learn new tricks. I really would hope that SMSI would open source the product, but= realistically, what incentive do they have to do so? They could offer an= open source version and a pay version, but if the OS community becomes= active and adds all kinds of stuff, who's going to pay for the high dollar= version? At any rate, I'm not leaving the list here, I've chatted with you guys for= too many years. I'll still take the occasional Webcat project when they= come along, but I can no longer sustain myself financially on doing this= alone (honestly, I should of moved on over a year ago but I kept= hoping....). I feel like I should write a "farewell cruel world" as in a suicide note= here.... :) :) G. At 09:58 PM 10/18/2007, you wrote: >...SmithMicro offering "support"? > >Waa-haa-haa! > >Best laugh in a whole year (with tears in my eyes and all)... > >But I'm 100% for open sourcing WebDNA to finally set it free from =20 >it's current dead end. > >Excellent message, > > >Le 07-10-18 =E0 22:52, Vincent Medina a =E9crit : > >>Absolutely there should be an open source project opened. WebDNA is =20 >>SOOOOO >>easy to do what other languages take lines and lines of code. SM =20 >>should >>offer a CE (Community Edition - FREE) and a Pro version which includes >>product support etc. It is the smart thing to do and shouldn't cost =20 >>them >>anything and they still retain the rights! >> >>I still remember other coders messing with Cold Fusion and other =20 >>CGI apps >>trying to get a simple functional shopping cart working. I went out =20 >>on the >>net and found Pacific Cost Software spent $600 for a license and =20 >>had a cart >>working in 2 hours with no coding experience! It would be such a =20 >>shame to >>see this product die....... >> >>Vince >>APCN >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On =20 >>Behalf Of Will >>Starck >>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:42 PM >>To: WebDNA Talk >>Subject: What really killed WebDNA? >> >>Hello- >> >>So, I've finally come to terms with the fact that WebDNA died round =20 >>about >>2004 give or take a few days. >> >>Aside from the fact that SMSI was always a terrible fit for this =20 >>product (my >>apologies SM, but it's true), I've often wondered-what exactly was =20 >>it that >>killed WebDNA (btw, I always hated that name)? >> >>I've always been curious about that question. >> >>Was there a technical reason (i.e. inability to integrate it to =20 >>emerging web >>development trends, lack of new potential features that would justify >>further upgrade cycles) or did SM just lose interest, or is/are =20 >>there some >>other reason(s)? >> >>I'd be interested in your theories - is there any reason to push =20 >>for an open >>source version, or should this dead horse stay dead because it is >>irrelevant? >> >>Your long suffering friend, >> >>Will Starck >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to= >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Gary Krockover

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