Re: What really killed WebDNA?

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2007


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texte = [rant] I have been thinking about this a lot the past few days. I looked at SMSI's stock chart going back 5yrs and noticed something interesting: that the stock has risen steadily, despite the fact that WebDNA does or does not still exist. So while I always knew the answer to "what killed webdna" was "bad marketing", that really put it in perspective for me. I have to believe that the suits at SMSI simply decided that the revenue from the 50-100 of us that used(d) WebDNA just wasn't enough to warrant the investment in further MKTG & R&D to make it really fly vs. the deep pockets of Adobe/Macromedia (Cold Fusion) & Microsloth (asp.NET), or the empty pockets but maniacal enthusiasm of the php community, so they shitcanned it and let it die a slow death. I don't agree with the decision, but in hindsight, I totally get it. But now here we are. There are still some of us that use the language and have enthusiam for it even today, and they are not moving on it at all. That part I don't get. Why just let it rot in the attic like that? I can see not wanting to throw "good" money after "bad", but why not actively engage someone to buy the rights to it or at least the rights to develop it further or *anything* to keep it moving forward at somebody else's risk/expense? That part I really don't get. I mean if I had a product that I didn't think had legs, but somebody else did, I would cash in on their enthusiasm somehow and let the other person run with it and take the risk, but that's just me. If I was the Marketing Director at SMSI, I would seriously consider using WebDNA as a "loss-leader" and simply give it away for free and brand the crap out of it with the SMSI brand and/or open source it--but retain all rights to it. Either way it costs nothing for SMSI and they could benefit from whatever momentum it gathered. Think of all the fish screensavers they could move :) Failing that, I would put it up for sale and wash my hands of it. But again that's just me. What do I know :) [/rant] -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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[rant] I have been thinking about this a lot the past few days. I looked at SMSI's stock chart going back 5yrs and noticed something interesting: that the stock has risen steadily, despite the fact that WebDNA does or does not still exist. So while I always knew the answer to "what killed webdna" was "bad marketing", that really put it in perspective for me. I have to believe that the suits at SMSI simply decided that the revenue from the 50-100 of us that used(d) WebDNA just wasn't enough to warrant the investment in further MKTG & R&D to make it really fly vs. the deep pockets of Adobe/Macromedia (Cold Fusion) & Microsloth (asp.NET), or the empty pockets but maniacal enthusiasm of the php community, so they shitcanned it and let it die a slow death. I don't agree with the decision, but in hindsight, I totally get it. But now here we are. There are still some of us that use the language and have enthusiam for it even today, and they are not moving on it at all. That part I don't get. Why just let it rot in the attic like that? I can see not wanting to throw "good" money after "bad", but why not actively engage someone to buy the rights to it or at least the rights to develop it further or *anything* to keep it moving forward at somebody else's risk/expense? That part I really don't get. I mean if I had a product that I didn't think had legs, but somebody else did, I would cash in on their enthusiasm somehow and let the other person run with it and take the risk, but that's just me. If I was the Marketing Director at SMSI, I would seriously consider using WebDNA as a "loss-leader" and simply give it away for free and brand the crap out of it with the SMSI brand and/or open source it--but retain all rights to it. Either way it costs nothing for SMSI and they could benefit from whatever momentum it gathered. Think of all the fish screensavers they could move :) Failing that, I would put it up for sale and wash my hands of it. But again that's just me. What do I know :) [/rant] -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Dan Strong"

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