Re: What really killed WebDNA?

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2007


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 69381
interpreted = N
texte = Good rant, totally agree. G. On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:32:17 -0700 "Dan Strong" wrote: > [rant] > I have been thinking about this a lot the past few days. >I looked at SMSI's stock chart going back 5yrs and >noticed something interesting: that the stock has risen >steadily, despite the fact that WebDNA does or does not >still exist. So while I always knew the answer to "what >killed webdna" was "bad marketing", that really put it in >perspective for me. I have to believe that the suits at >SMSI simply decided that the revenue from the 50-100 of >us that used(d) WebDNA just wasn't enough to warrant the >investment in further MKTG & R&D to make it really fly >vs. the deep pockets of Adobe/Macromedia (Cold Fusion) & >Microsloth (asp.NET), or the empty pockets but maniacal >enthusiasm of the php community, so they shitcanned it >and let it die a slow death. I don't agree with the >decision, but in hindsight, I totally get it. > > But now here we are. There are still some of us that use >the language and have enthusiam for it even today, and >they are not moving on it at all. That part I don't get. >Why just let it rot in the attic like that? I can see not >wanting to throw "good" money after "bad", but why not >actively engage someone to buy the rights to it or at >least the rights to develop it further or *anything* to >keep it moving forward at somebody else's risk/expense? >That part I really don't get. I mean if I had a product >that I didn't think had legs, but somebody else did, I >would cash in on their enthusiasm somehow and let the >other person run with it and take the risk, but that's >just me. > > If I was the Marketing Director at SMSI, I would >seriously consider using WebDNA as a "loss-leader" and >simply give it away for free and brand the crap out of it >with the SMSI brand and/or open source it--but retain all >rights to it. Either way it costs nothing for SMSI and >they could benefit from whatever momentum it gathered. >Think of all the fish screensavers they could move :) >Failing that, I would put it up for sale and wash my >hands of it. > > But again that's just me. What do I know :) > [/rant] > -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Toby Cox 2007)
  2. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Larry Hewitt 2007)
  3. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Jesse Proudman 2007)
  4. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Donovan Brooke 2007)
  5. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Clint Davis 2007)
  6. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Matthew Bohne 2007)
  7. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( "Gary Krockover" 2007)
  8. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Paul Willis 2007)
  9. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( "Dan Strong" 2007)
  10. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Dean Smith 2007)
  11. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Frank Nordberg 2007)
  12. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( "Will Starck" 2007)
  13. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Charles Kline 2007)
  14. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Frank Nordberg 2007)
  15. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Donovan Brooke 2007)
  16. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Stuart Tremain 2007)
  17. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( "Chris Moore" 2007)
  18. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( "Dan Strong" 2007)
  19. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Gary Krockover 2007)
  20. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Claude Gelinas 2007)
  21. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( Stuart Tremain 2007)
  22. Re: What really killed WebDNA? ( "Vincent Medina" 2007)
  23. What really killed WebDNA? ( "Will Starck" 2007)
Good rant, totally agree. G. On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:32:17 -0700 "Dan Strong" wrote: > [rant] > I have been thinking about this a lot the past few days. >I looked at SMSI's stock chart going back 5yrs and >noticed something interesting: that the stock has risen >steadily, despite the fact that WebDNA does or does not >still exist. So while I always knew the answer to "what >killed webdna" was "bad marketing", that really put it in >perspective for me. I have to believe that the suits at >SMSI simply decided that the revenue from the 50-100 of >us that used(d) WebDNA just wasn't enough to warrant the >investment in further MKTG & R&D to make it really fly >vs. the deep pockets of Adobe/Macromedia (Cold Fusion) & >Microsloth (asp.NET), or the empty pockets but maniacal >enthusiasm of the php community, so they shitcanned it >and let it die a slow death. I don't agree with the >decision, but in hindsight, I totally get it. > > But now here we are. There are still some of us that use >the language and have enthusiam for it even today, and >they are not moving on it at all. That part I don't get. >Why just let it rot in the attic like that? I can see not >wanting to throw "good" money after "bad", but why not >actively engage someone to buy the rights to it or at >least the rights to develop it further or *anything* to >keep it moving forward at somebody else's risk/expense? >That part I really don't get. I mean if I had a product >that I didn't think had legs, but somebody else did, I >would cash in on their enthusiasm somehow and let the >other person run with it and take the risk, but that's >just me. > > If I was the Marketing Director at SMSI, I would >seriously consider using WebDNA as a "loss-leader" and >simply give it away for free and brand the crap out of it >with the SMSI brand and/or open source it--but retain all >rights to it. Either way it costs nothing for SMSI and >they could benefit from whatever momentum it gathered. >Think of all the fish screensavers they could move :) >Failing that, I would put it up for sale and wash my >hands of it. > > But again that's just me. What do I know :) > [/rant] > -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Gary Krockover"

DOWNLOAD WEBDNA NOW!

Top Articles:

Talk List

The WebDNA community talk-list is the best place to get some help: several hundred extremely proficient programmers with an excellent knowledge of WebDNA and an excellent spirit will deliver all the tips and tricks you can imagine...

Related Readings:

Forms Search Questions (1997) Running _every_ page through WebCat-error.html (1997) OT: PDF (2004) FAX orders (1996) Going to OSX 10.4 Tiger - WebDNA 6 (2006) ShowIf variables (1997) Re[2]: Weird [blank] interpretation (1999) totals (1997) NetForms for mail, sorry (1998) Umm...about those log files? (Off Topic) (1997) Completed Orders (2006) WebCatalog/WebMerchant 2.1 (1998) Google Web Accelerator (2005) Problems getting parameters passed into email. (1997) Frames and WebCat (1997) [showif]/[hideif] question (1997) Trouble with formula.db + more explanation (1997) Paths, relative paths, webstar server setup and security (Mac) (1997) Showif for mulitple variations (1997) WebCatalog template cache (1998)