Re: Poll Results

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2002


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texte = Well, y'all, just to accentuate my point from earlier today, I just lost a $10k RFP because the client said that the site has to be built in perl, not WebDNA. And it's funny, they never stated that they needed a perl developer, they just said they needed a website that talks and does their dishes and some other crap that goes beyond basic HTML...That's what I'm talking about...I start out generic (I can do that ecomm/datablah. No problemo! blah blah), then it always gets down to the specific technology (they ALWAYS ask), and I lose the client the minute I say WebDNA.I guess I should just become a broker. Anybody know any good perl developers.... ;)-DanOn 06 Aug 2002 10:19:36 Stuart Tremain wrote: >Being one of the other 4 'Owners of Development Business >(more than 1 employee)' I confer with Karl. > >We expand and keep business moving along by offering We >can do that service and delivering on what we promise >combined with a good deal of marketing expertise that >makes clients sites work for them in the marketplace. > >The web is more than technology and programming, it is a >marketing tool and I believe that is the way to approach >existing and new clients. Tell them how your solution >will make their cash registers ring - and most of all >believe in what you tell them. > >-- >Stuart Tremain >idfk web developments - Australia > >On Tuesday, 6 August 2002, Karl Schroll > wrote: >>> (5) Owners of Development Business (more than 1 >>>employee) >> >>^ >>This is me. >> >>I'm not positive, but since we started developing with >>WebCatalog 1.6.1, I >>don't think that we've EVER lost a job because the >>technology didn't stack >>up to ASP/Cold Fusion, etc. In fact most of our clients >>don't even ask or >>care. And most of our projects come in with decent size >>budgets, but we're >>often substantially less than the competition. Seems for >>us the sweet spot >>in is larger organizations that don't really have an IT >>department, but >>sometimes an IT person who does double duty, is >>overworked, and is just >>looking for an affordable way to ease the pain of website >>management, which >>is where our WebCat content management system fits the >>bill nicely. The >>more bells and whistles in the project, the more you're >>likely to run into >>the IT people who want the safe ASP/CF solution. But >>we've gotten some of >>those too. Get testimonials from your higher-profile >>sites, give demos, and >>keep the price reasonable and maybe don't target the >>higest end. >>-- >> >>Regards, >> >>Karl Schroll >>Digital Frontier >>PO Box 1171, 1813 Mountain Road >>Stowe, VT 05672 >>802-253-8612 >>schroll@digitalfrontier.com >>www.digitalfrontier.com >> >>************************************************** >>Take control of your web site with our easy-to-use >>content management systems. Discover for yourself >>how easy web site management can be! >>************************************************** >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: >>http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: >http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------- http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: OT: Poll Results (Rob Marquardt 2002)
  2. Re: OT: Poll Results (Karl Schroll 2002)
  3. Re: OT: Poll Results (Daniel Schutzsmith 2002)
  4. Re: Poll Results (Donovan Brooke 2002)
  5. Re: Poll Results (Louis A Perosi 2002)
  6. Re: OT: Poll Results (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  7. Re: OT: Poll Results (Dan Strong 2002)
  8. Re: Poll Results (Bob Minor 2002)
  9. Re: Poll Results (Andrew Simpson 2002)
  10. Re: Poll Results (Dan Strong 2002)
  11. Re: Poll Results (Dan Strong 2002)
  12. Re: Poll Results (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  13. Re: OT: Poll Results (Bob Minor 2002)
  14. Re: OT: Poll Results (Andrew Simpson 2002)
  15. Re: OT: Poll Results (Alex McCombie 2002)
  16. Re: OT: Poll Results (Dan Strong 2002)
  17. Re: OT: Poll Results (Kimberly D Ingram 2002)
  18. Re: OT: Poll Results (Alex McCombie 2002)
  19. Re: OT: Poll Results (Karl Schroll 2002)
  20. Re: OT: Poll Results (Alisha Outridge 2002)
  21. Re: OT: Poll Results (Dan Strong 2002)
  22. Re: OT: Poll Results (Alex McCombie 2002)
  23. Re: OT: Poll Results (Donovan 2002)
  24. OT: Poll Results (Kimberly D Ingram 2002)
Well, y'all, just to accentuate my point from earlier today, I just lost a $10k RFP because the client said that the site has to be built in perl, not WebDNA. And it's funny, they never stated that they needed a perl developer, they just said they needed a website that talks and does their dishes and some other crap that goes beyond basic HTML...That's what I'm talking about...I start out generic (I can do that ecomm/datablah. No problemo! blah blah), then it always gets down to the specific technology (they ALWAYS ask), and I lose the client the minute I say WebDNA.I guess I should just become a broker. Anybody know any good perl developers.... ;)-DanOn 06 Aug 2002 10:19:36 Stuart Tremain wrote: >Being one of the other 4 'Owners of Development Business >(more than 1 employee)' I confer with Karl. > >We expand and keep business moving along by offering We >can do that service and delivering on what we promise >combined with a good deal of marketing expertise that >makes clients sites work for them in the marketplace. > >The web is more than technology and programming, it is a >marketing tool and I believe that is the way to approach >existing and new clients. Tell them how your solution >will make their cash registers ring - and most of all >believe in what you tell them. > >-- >Stuart Tremain >idfk web developments - Australia > >On Tuesday, 6 August 2002, Karl Schroll > wrote: >>> (5) Owners of Development Business (more than 1 >>>employee) >> >>^ >>This is me. >> >>I'm not positive, but since we started developing with >>WebCatalog 1.6.1, I >>don't think that we've EVER lost a job because the >>technology didn't stack >>up to ASP/Cold Fusion, etc. In fact most of our clients >>don't even ask or >>care. And most of our projects come in with decent size >>budgets, but we're >>often substantially less than the competition. Seems for >>us the sweet spot >>in is larger organizations that don't really have an IT >>department, but >>sometimes an IT person who does double duty, is >>overworked, and is just >>looking for an affordable way to ease the pain of website >>management, which >>is where our WebCat content management system fits the >>bill nicely. The >>more bells and whistles in the project, the more you're >>likely to run into >>the IT people who want the safe ASP/CF solution. But >>we've gotten some of >>those too. Get testimonials from your higher-profile >>sites, give demos, and >>keep the price reasonable and maybe don't target the >>higest end. >>-- >> >>Regards, >> >>Karl Schroll >>Digital Frontier >>PO Box 1171, 1813 Mountain Road >>Stowe, VT 05672 >>802-253-8612 >>schroll@digitalfrontier.com >>www.digitalfrontier.com >> >>************************************************** >>Take control of your web site with our easy-to-use >>content management systems. Discover for yourself >>how easy web site management can be! >>************************************************** >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: >>http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: >http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------- http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Dan Strong

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