Re: Two options to consider
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texte = Ass clowns? Oh damn, that's funny lol Better put me down for option #2 Still LMAO, Will -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of = Dan Strong Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:04 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Two options to consider I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have = friends who are lawyers, one=20 of whom is an IP attorney in SM's backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd = be willing to settle for=20 some version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a = class-action. I'm really not happy=20 with these ass-clowns at the moment. Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if=20 we hope to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list = (I use Communigate as=20 well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to be the first to offer. -Dan On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)"
wrote: > Hi >=20 > Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the moment, = and > we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not SmithMicro = for > how they've treated us and their software product, what does everyone think > about either of the following options; >=20 > 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even = better, > make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be = possible to > get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort of = JV. > "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; > 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently > mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers = (us) into > thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby promoting sales > of a product that they knew to be defunct. >=20 > Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either effort = if I > can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be in vain > if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >=20 > Let me know people....... >=20 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >=20 >> Thanks Christer :) >>=20 >>=20 >> Regards >>=20 >> Stuart Tremain >> IDFK Web Developments >> AUSTRALIA >> webdna@idfk.com.au >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>> It's all in the RFC: >>>=20 >>> >>>=20 >>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your SETCOOKIE >>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter, >>> like >>>=20 >>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com >>> ] >>>=20 >>> Best, >>> Christer >>>=20 >>> ************************************************************* >>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Regards >>>>=20 >>>> Stuart Tremain >>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>> AUSTRALIA >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>> vulnerability: >>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Regards >>>>>=20 >>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>=20 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>=20 >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Ass clowns? Oh damn, that's funny lol Better put me down for option #2 Still LMAO, Will -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of = Dan Strong Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:04 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Two options to consider I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have = friends who are lawyers, one=20 of whom is an IP attorney in SM's backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd = be willing to settle for=20 some version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a = class-action. I'm really not happy=20 with these ass-clowns at the moment. Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if=20 we hope to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list = (I use Communigate as=20 well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to be the first to offer. -Dan On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)" wrote: > Hi >=20 > Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the moment, = and > we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not SmithMicro = for > how they've treated us and their software product, what does everyone think > about either of the following options; >=20 > 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even = better, > make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be = possible to > get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort of = JV. > "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; > 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently > mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers = (us) into > thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby promoting sales > of a product that they knew to be defunct. >=20 > Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either effort = if I > can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be in vain > if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >=20 > Let me know people....... >=20 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >=20 >> Thanks Christer :) >>=20 >>=20 >> Regards >>=20 >> Stuart Tremain >> IDFK Web Developments >> AUSTRALIA >> webdna@idfk.com.au >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>> It's all in the RFC: >>>=20 >>> >>>=20 >>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your SETCOOKIE >>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter, >>> like >>>=20 >>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com >>> ] >>>=20 >>> Best, >>> Christer >>>=20 >>> ************************************************************* >>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Regards >>>>=20 >>>> Stuart Tremain >>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>> AUSTRALIA >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>> vulnerability: >>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Regards >>>>>=20 >>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>=20 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>=20 >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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