Re: Two options to consider
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texte = I'd opt for option 2 to being about 1.Dean SmithOn Apr 16, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Rob wrote:> Makes sense.... In for opt 2...>> Rob..>> On 16-Apr-08, at 9:04 PM, Dan Strong wrote:>>> I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I =20>> have friends who are lawyers, one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's =20=>> backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle for some =20=>> version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-=20>> action. I'm really not happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. =20>> Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if we hope =20=>> to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I =20=>> use Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to =20=>> be the first to offer.>> -Dan>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200>> "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)"
wrote:>>> Hi>>> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the =20>>> moment, and>>> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not =20>>> SmithMicro for>>> how they've treated us and their software product, what does =20>>> everyone think>>> about either of the following options;>>> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even =20=>>> better,>>> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be =20>>> possible to>>> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort =20=>>> of JV.>>> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR;>>> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently>>> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers =20=>>> (us) into>>> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby =20>>> promoting sales>>> of a product that they knew to be defunct.>>> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either =20>>> effort if I>>> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would =20>>> be in vain>>> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it.>>> Let me know people.......>>> Thanks,>>> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote:>>>> Thanks Christer :)>>>> Regards>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote:>>>>> It's all in the RFC:>>>>> >>>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your =SETCOOKIE>>>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to>>>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value =20>>>>> parameter,>>>>> like>>>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; =secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com>>>>> ]>>>>> Best,>>>>> Christer>>>>> *************************************************************>>>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85>>>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89>>>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se>>>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain:>>>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ????>>>>>> Regards>>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>>>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a>>>>>>> vulnerability:>>>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie">>>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ?>>>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ?>>>>>>> Regards>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>>> >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to => >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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I'd opt for option 2 to being about 1.Dean SmithOn Apr 16, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Rob wrote:> Makes sense.... In for opt 2...>> Rob..>> On 16-Apr-08, at 9:04 PM, Dan Strong wrote:>>> I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I =20>> have friends who are lawyers, one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's =20=>> backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle for some =20=>> version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-=20>> action. I'm really not happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. =20>> Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if we hope =20=>> to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I =20=>> use Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to =20=>> be the first to offer.>> -Dan>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200>> "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)" wrote:>>> Hi>>> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the =20>>> moment, and>>> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not =20>>> SmithMicro for>>> how they've treated us and their software product, what does =20>>> everyone think>>> about either of the following options;>>> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even =20=>>> better,>>> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be =20>>> possible to>>> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort =20=>>> of JV.>>> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR;>>> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently>>> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers =20=>>> (us) into>>> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby =20>>> promoting sales>>> of a product that they knew to be defunct.>>> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either =20>>> effort if I>>> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would =20>>> be in vain>>> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it.>>> Let me know people.......>>> Thanks,>>> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote:>>>> Thanks Christer :)>>>> Regards>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote:>>>>> It's all in the RFC:>>>>> >>>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your =SETCOOKIE>>>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to>>>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value =20>>>>> parameter,>>>>> like>>>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; =secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com>>>>> ]>>>>> Best,>>>>> Christer>>>>> *************************************************************>>>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85>>>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89>>>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se>>>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain:>>>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ????>>>>>> Regards>>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>>>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a>>>>>>> vulnerability:>>>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie">>>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ?>>>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ?>>>>>>> Regards>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>>> >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to => >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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