Re: Two options to consider
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texte = Oh, btw, I'll be staying in Rancho Bernardo, a few blocks from SMSI, at the end of the month for a few days and would be happy to hand deliver any paperwork we come up with by then and/or act as a personal emmissary in any way if anyone feels that would be useful. I promise I won't call them ass-clowns in person. :) -Dan On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:04:19 -0700 "Dan Strong"
wrote: > I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have friends who are lawyers, >one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle >for some version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-action. I'm really not >happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, >IMO, if we hope to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I use >Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to be the first to offer. > -Dan > > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 > "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)" wrote: >> Hi >> >> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the moment, and >> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not SmithMicro for >> how they've treated us and their software product, what does everyone think >> about either of the following options; >> >> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even better, >> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be possible to >> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort of JV. >> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; >> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently >> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers (us) into >> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby promoting sales >> of a product that they knew to be defunct. >> >> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either effort if I >> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be in vain >> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >> >> Let me know people....... >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >> >>> Thanks Christer :) >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Stuart Tremain >>> IDFK Web Developments >>> AUSTRALIA >>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>>> It's all in the RFC: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=" to your SETCOOKIE >>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter, >>>> like >>>> >>>> [SETCOOKIE name=mySecureCookie2&value=Hello!; secure&domain=www.mydomain.com >>>> ] >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Christer >>>> >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>> Ljusa Idéer AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>>> vulnerability: >>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Oh, btw, I'll be staying in Rancho Bernardo, a few blocks from SMSI, at the end of the month for a few days and would be happy to hand deliver any paperwork we come up with by then and/or act as a personal emmissary in any way if anyone feels that would be useful. I promise I won't call them ass-clowns in person. :) -Dan On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:04:19 -0700 "Dan Strong" wrote: > I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have friends who are lawyers, >one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle >for some version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-action. I'm really not >happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, >IMO, if we hope to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I use >Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to be the first to offer. > -Dan > > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 > "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)" wrote: >> Hi >> >> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the moment, and >> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not SmithMicro for >> how they've treated us and their software product, what does everyone think >> about either of the following options; >> >> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even better, >> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be possible to >> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort of JV. >> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; >> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently >> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers (us) into >> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby promoting sales >> of a product that they knew to be defunct. >> >> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either effort if I >> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be in vain >> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >> >> Let me know people....... >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >> >>> Thanks Christer :) >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Stuart Tremain >>> IDFK Web Developments >>> AUSTRALIA >>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>>> It's all in the RFC: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=" to your SETCOOKIE >>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter, >>>> like >>>> >>>> [SETCOOKIE name=mySecureCookie2&value=Hello!; secure&domain=www.mydomain.com >>>> ] >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Christer >>>> >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>> Ljusa Idéer AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>>> vulnerability: >>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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