Re: Two options to consider
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texte = Hi I think an off-list discussion is a great idea. I haven't had anything setu= p for this for a while so your offer is accepted gratefully. It seems at this point that there is a split between who wants to do what, so I propose that we establish the new discussion, then I'll share my thoughts on the best approach. Thank you all for raising your voices. I will make sure we're heard. Thanks, on 17/4/08 3:04 PM, Dan Strong at webdna@danstrong.com wrote: > I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have frie= nds > who are lawyers, one > of whom is an IP attorney in SM's backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be > willing to settle for > some version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-action= ... > I'm really not happy > with these ass-clowns at the moment. Either way, we should move this dicu= ssion > off-list, IMO, if > we hope to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list = (I > use Communigate as > well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to be the first to offer. > -Dan >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 > "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)"
wrote: >> Hi >>=20 >> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the moment, and >> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not SmithMicro f= or >> how they've treated us and their software product, what does everyone th= ink >> about either of the following options; >>=20 >> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even bette= r, >> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be possibl= e to >> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort of JV= .. >> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; >> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently >> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers (us) = into >> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby promoting s= ales >> of a product that they knew to be defunct. >>=20 >> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either effort if= I >> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be in v= ain >> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >>=20 >> Let me know people....... >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >>=20 >>> Thanks Christer :) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Regards >>>=20 >>> Stuart Tremain >>> IDFK Web Developments >>> AUSTRALIA >>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>>> It's all in the RFC: >>>>=20 >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your SETCOOKIE >>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter, >>>> like >>>>=20 >>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; >>>> secure&domain=3Dwww..mydomain.com >>>> ] >>>>=20 >>>> Best, >>>> Christer >>>>=20 >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Regards >>>>>=20 >>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>>> vulnerability: >>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Regards >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >=20 >=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Hi I think an off-list discussion is a great idea. I haven't had anything setu= p for this for a while so your offer is accepted gratefully. It seems at this point that there is a split between who wants to do what, so I propose that we establish the new discussion, then I'll share my thoughts on the best approach. Thank you all for raising your voices. I will make sure we're heard. Thanks, on 17/4/08 3:04 PM, Dan Strong at webdna@danstrong.com wrote: > I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have frie= nds > who are lawyers, one > of whom is an IP attorney in SM's backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be > willing to settle for > some version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-action= ... > I'm really not happy > with these ass-clowns at the moment. Either way, we should move this dicu= ssion > off-list, IMO, if > we hope to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list = (I > use Communigate as > well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to be the first to offer. > -Dan >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 > "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)" wrote: >> Hi >>=20 >> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the moment, and >> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not SmithMicro f= or >> how they've treated us and their software product, what does everyone th= ink >> about either of the following options; >>=20 >> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even bette= r, >> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be possibl= e to >> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort of JV= .. >> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; >> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently >> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers (us) = into >> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby promoting s= ales >> of a product that they knew to be defunct. >>=20 >> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either effort if= I >> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be in v= ain >> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >>=20 >> Let me know people....... >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >>=20 >>> Thanks Christer :) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Regards >>>=20 >>> Stuart Tremain >>> IDFK Web Developments >>> AUSTRALIA >>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>>> It's all in the RFC: >>>>=20 >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your SETCOOKIE >>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter, >>>> like >>>>=20 >>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; >>>> secure&domain=3Dwww..mydomain.com >>>> ] >>>>=20 >>>> Best, >>>> Christer >>>>=20 >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Regards >>>>>=20 >>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>>> vulnerability: >>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Regards >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >=20 >=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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