Re: 5.0 Pricing

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2003

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texte = John Peacock wrote:> You people are amazing! SMSI has decided to broaden the base of users > for WebDNA (something that many people on this list have been grousing > about for years) by cutting the entry price and making it cheap to add > additional licenses. They effectively did this with there 4 options, not with the limitation of domains IMHO.> This is the best news on the WebDNA front in a long time! The > incremental license cost of $50 is very reasonable, considering that > it is not time-limited; every time a new customer signs on that you > are hosting, you bill them your actual cost of $50 to license their > site. I don't see it this way at all. I now not only have to pay SMSI for new domains, I have to pay them to create a host on my original domain.> No serious business will even blanch at that. Compare this to the per > seat cost of anti-virus software and you will see that it is a very > reasonable expense.huh? I only need one copy of anti-virus software to cover all my domains.>> Since the first time that SMSI announced the preliminary upgrade > pricing, they have even created a new unlimited Commerce license, for > those people who don't need the features of the Enterprise Edition. > But that's not good enough for you! created?, This is what we are used to. You should say that they altered a product to add limits.> As an existing customer, you want, nay demand, to be given the upgrade > to 5.0 for little or nothing! $1500.00 may be little to you but it *is* significant to me.> SMSI has to pay for the development of the new features. They cannot > do it strictly on the basis of new customers.I agree.... My thoughts are that they need to lower the upgrade price to sell more copies, thus thrive.>>> Get real! If you feel that you simply _have_ to have an unlimited > license, and cannot afford to spend $1495 for an upgrade of your core > platform, your business model needs some serious revising. SMSI has > changed the licensing model, for the better, IMNSHO, and if you don't > like it, don't upgrade. Go write all of the e-commerce code yourself > in PHP or Perl and discover exactly how much work it will involve.This is our/my option. John, the reason I am stating my opinion here is because I do want SMSI to do well. I've never won the lottery, found a bunch of money etc.... The way I have found success is by working every day and making an honest living. I continue to get work by taking this attitude. By sharing our thoughts as long-time users of there software, I think we help SMSI thrive because as much as we are buying in to a good product, they are benefiting by the honest sales of there product.>> Speaking strictly for myself and my company, we will be purchasing the > Enterprise Edition upgrade (since it includes the Intranet features), > which even at $2995 is still a bargain to my mind. If I was a new > customer, I'd buy 4.5 now just so I could get a better deal on 5.0 > when it comes out.(btw, thanks again for all the help over the years :-)Donovan>>> John>-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

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John Peacock wrote:> You people are amazing! SMSI has decided to broaden the base of users > for WebDNA (something that many people on this list have been grousing > about for years) by cutting the entry price and making it cheap to add > additional licenses. They effectively did this with there 4 options, not with the limitation of domains IMHO.> This is the best news on the WebDNA front in a long time! The > incremental license cost of $50 is very reasonable, considering that > it is not time-limited; every time a new customer signs on that you > are hosting, you bill them your actual cost of $50 to license their > site. I don't see it this way at all. I now not only have to pay SMSI for new domains, I have to pay them to create a host on my original domain.> No serious business will even blanch at that. Compare this to the per > seat cost of anti-virus software and you will see that it is a very > reasonable expense.huh? I only need one copy of anti-virus software to cover all my domains.>> Since the first time that SMSI announced the preliminary upgrade > pricing, they have even created a new unlimited Commerce license, for > those people who don't need the features of the Enterprise Edition. > But that's not good enough for you! created?, This is what we are used to. You should say that they altered a product to add limits.> As an existing customer, you want, nay demand, to be given the upgrade > to 5.0 for little or nothing! $1500.00 may be little to you but it *is* significant to me.> SMSI has to pay for the development of the new features. They cannot > do it strictly on the basis of new customers.I agree.... My thoughts are that they need to lower the upgrade price to sell more copies, thus thrive.>>> Get real! If you feel that you simply _have_ to have an unlimited > license, and cannot afford to spend $1495 for an upgrade of your core > platform, your business model needs some serious revising. SMSI has > changed the licensing model, for the better, IMNSHO, and if you don't > like it, don't upgrade. Go write all of the e-commerce code yourself > in PHP or Perl and discover exactly how much work it will involve.This is our/my option. John, the reason I am stating my opinion here is because I do want SMSI to do well. I've never won the lottery, found a bunch of money etc.... The way I have found success is by working every day and making an honest living. I continue to get work by taking this attitude. By sharing our thoughts as long-time users of there software, I think we help SMSI thrive because as much as we are buying in to a good product, they are benefiting by the honest sales of there product.>> Speaking strictly for myself and my company, we will be purchasing the > Enterprise Edition upgrade (since it includes the Intranet features), > which even at $2995 is still a bargain to my mind. If I was a new > customer, I'd buy 4.5 now just so I could get a better deal on 5.0 > when it comes out.(btw, thanks again for all the help over the years :-)Donovan>>> John>-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Donovan

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