Re: 5.0 Pricing

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2003

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texte = >There has been some confusion surrounding the licensing for WebDNA Partner>and Commerce Editions of 5.0. I know we have referred to it as per>domain as well as per website. These terms are easily confused, and that>hasn't helped! These are all examples of what we refer to as a website>(also known as a hostname):[snip]I must be stupid but I really can't understand the purpose of your posting, Doug. February 15, after the discussion folowing the first posting of upgrade prices to 5.0 you closed by posting: While a good pricing structure to provide a low cost of entry and attractnew developers, it would seem that we underestimated the effect on some ofour current developers. We have a couple of options that accommodate you-give us a couple of days to discuss internally.....And now you're coming back with exactly (AFAIU) the same prices once more - what's the point? Or is this paragraph missing something in the end:>To help address the needs of developers who are serving up hundreds of>customers, we offer 2 upgrade paths; the ability to upgrade a Commerce>Edition 5.0 license to support unlimited websites at competitive pricing,>and a VERY attractive $2995 upgrade price to WebDNA Enterprise Edition that>defaults to unlimited websites, as well as providing significant value-added>features. Considering what you get for this price compared to MX Server,>Enterprise Edition is a very compelling solution for providing advanced>features to a broad range of customer needs! Each of your customers can have>their own work group content management system. Each customer can have their>own Intranet. The WSDL Wizard can be used to provide each customer with>custom web services solutions, producing all the code to support SOAP calls>to a web service in minutes instead of a manually process that would>otherwise take days of labor to create. The value you are able to deliver to>the customer is exceptional!You're talking about 2 upgrade paths for developers serving hundreds of domains, but I can just find one - upgrading to Enterprise. I hope you meant to add a Commerce Pro for $895 here - with a early bird $100 discount, just as Smith Micro did with the 3.0 to 4.0 upgrade.If Alain and Nitai not already had posted their good views on this my posting would have been a lot longer - but they put it very well, so please listen and don't kill a fine product by drive you loyal customers away with an overpriced upgrade.-- ************************************************************* Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 Ljusa Id�er AB SE-200 39 Malmoe Fax +46 40 25 85 89 Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

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>There has been some confusion surrounding the licensing for WebDNA Partner>and Commerce Editions of 5.0. I know we have referred to it as per>domain as well as per website. These terms are easily confused, and that>hasn't helped! These are all examples of what we refer to as a website>(also known as a hostname):[snip]I must be stupid but I really can't understand the purpose of your posting, Doug. February 15, after the discussion folowing the first posting of upgrade prices to 5.0 you closed by posting: While a good pricing structure to provide a low cost of entry and attractnew developers, it would seem that we underestimated the effect on some ofour current developers. We have a couple of options that accommodate you-give us a couple of days to discuss internally.....And now you're coming back with exactly (AFAIU) the same prices once more - what's the point? Or is this paragraph missing something in the end:>To help address the needs of developers who are serving up hundreds of>customers, we offer 2 upgrade paths; the ability to upgrade a Commerce>Edition 5.0 license to support unlimited websites at competitive pricing,>and a VERY attractive $2995 upgrade price to WebDNA Enterprise Edition that>defaults to unlimited websites, as well as providing significant value-added>features. Considering what you get for this price compared to MX Server,>Enterprise Edition is a very compelling solution for providing advanced>features to a broad range of customer needs! Each of your customers can have>their own work group content management system. Each customer can have their>own Intranet. The WSDL Wizard can be used to provide each customer with>custom web services solutions, producing all the code to support SOAP calls>to a web service in minutes instead of a manually process that would>otherwise take days of labor to create. The value you are able to deliver to>the customer is exceptional!You're talking about 2 upgrade paths for developers serving hundreds of domains, but I can just find one - upgrading to Enterprise. I hope you meant to add a Commerce Pro for $895 here - with a early bird $100 discount, just as Smith Micro did with the 3.0 to 4.0 upgrade.If Alain and Nitai not already had posted their good views on this my posting would have been a lot longer - but they put it very well, so please listen and don't kill a fine product by drive you loyal customers away with an overpriced upgrade.-- ************************************************************* Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 Ljusa Id�er AB SE-200 39 Malmoe Fax +46 40 25 85 89 Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Christer Olsson

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