Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ...

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2008


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 101093
interpreted = N
texte = Sounds good to me! On 10/10/2008, at 7:21 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >> And something that doesn't want to write back to a locked >> session on a CD .... > > Not an issue: > > The first time you use a Linux-based LiveCD it maps out some > memory as a virtual hard drive and it writes file changes > to that memory. At session end it asks where you want your > changes stored, and if you don't want to wait you can force > write your changes to disk or USB before session end. > > Next startup and every time thereafter -- if the same > hardware is found -- it load the changes on top of the > CD-based files, saves to disk throughout the session to > prevent data loss, and saves to disk again at session end. > > In other words, it's a completely transparent system after > the first run provided you always use the same data storage > devices, which is why a USB thumb drive is a good mate for > a LiveCD -- they are both portable and can easily travel > together. > > >> You will also need to get around people who's computer >> doesn't boot in the order you need (ie 1. Floppy, 2. CD, >> 3. HDD) or have turned off CD booting in their BIOS. > > Yes, but nearly all computers these days try to boot from CD > before HD by default and most people never change this ... > and those who do usually remember how to change it back so > I really don't see this as being a huge problem. > > >> As WebDNA was originally a Mac product (the reason I >> started with WebDNA), what about a Mac version. > > LiveCD's run on Intel-based Mac's now. For all I know they > may also run on non-Intel Macs but I have never tried it > myself. > > >> It all sounds great Ken, I am just glad I will not be >> manning the Help Desk ! > > Oh you will be! What do you think this talk list is for? > > :) > > > I'm not suggesting that there will be zero problems here, > but for crying out loud, if you want to get this software > into people's hands any time soon you have to define a > marketing campaign and get going on it. > > Fixing bugs is a totally different issue, and it's an easy > thing when you're a programmer to retreat into your > comfortable "office cave" and try to find and squash all > the bad little critters that live in your software rather > than confront the bigger business issues. Basically I'm > concerned about this, and I'm proposing a marketing concept > that IMHO just might "take off" once it hits critical mass. > > I would simply like to see this software get into the hands > of people who can stick a CD into their computers and > within 5 minutes be typing [time] and [date] and watching > how cool it is to see those tags converted to the expected > values right before their eyes -- and right on their own > computers at that! > > This is what I think is really going to sell WebDNA to the > masses, and that's why I like this approach so much ... :) > > Sincerely, > Ken Grome > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  2. RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Timur Ruban 2008)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2008)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Gary Krockover 2008)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2008)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Gary Krockover 2008)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Gary Krockover 2008)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Patrick McCormick 2008)
  9. RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... ("Will Starck" 2008)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2008)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Patrick McCormick 2008)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Gary Krockover 2008)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Bob Minor 2008)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Patrick McCormick 2008)
  27. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Gary Krockover 2008)
  28. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  29. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Gary Krockover 2008)
  30. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Govinda 2008)
  31. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Terry Wilson 2008)
  32. [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ... (Kenneth Grome 2008)
Sounds good to me! On 10/10/2008, at 7:21 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >> And something that doesn't want to write back to a locked >> session on a CD .... > > Not an issue: > > The first time you use a Linux-based LiveCD it maps out some > memory as a virtual hard drive and it writes file changes > to that memory. At session end it asks where you want your > changes stored, and if you don't want to wait you can force > write your changes to disk or USB before session end. > > Next startup and every time thereafter -- if the same > hardware is found -- it load the changes on top of the > CD-based files, saves to disk throughout the session to > prevent data loss, and saves to disk again at session end. > > In other words, it's a completely transparent system after > the first run provided you always use the same data storage > devices, which is why a USB thumb drive is a good mate for > a LiveCD -- they are both portable and can easily travel > together. > > >> You will also need to get around people who's computer >> doesn't boot in the order you need (ie 1. Floppy, 2. CD, >> 3. HDD) or have turned off CD booting in their BIOS. > > Yes, but nearly all computers these days try to boot from CD > before HD by default and most people never change this ... > and those who do usually remember how to change it back so > I really don't see this as being a huge problem. > > >> As WebDNA was originally a Mac product (the reason I >> started with WebDNA), what about a Mac version. > > LiveCD's run on Intel-based Mac's now. For all I know they > may also run on non-Intel Macs but I have never tried it > myself. > > >> It all sounds great Ken, I am just glad I will not be >> manning the Help Desk ! > > Oh you will be! What do you think this Talk List is for? > > :) > > > I'm not suggesting that there will be zero problems here, > but for crying out loud, if you want to get this software > into people's hands any time soon you have to define a > marketing campaign and get going on it. > > Fixing bugs is a totally different issue, and it's an easy > thing when you're a programmer to retreat into your > comfortable "office cave" and try to find and squash all > the bad little critters that live in your software rather > than confront the bigger business issues. Basically I'm > concerned about this, and I'm proposing a marketing concept > that IMHO just might "take off" once it hits critical mass. > > I would simply like to see this software get into the hands > of people who can stick a CD into their computers and > within 5 minutes be typing [time] and [date] and watching > how cool it is to see those tags converted to the expected > values right before their eyes -- and right on their own > computers at that! > > This is what I think is really going to sell WebDNA to the > masses, and that's why I like this approach so much ... :) > > Sincerely, > Ken Grome > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ Stuart Tremain

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