Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA on LiveCD ...
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2008
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = The difference between a LiveCD version versus an appliance is that the LiveCD is the only OS and server running. A user may well be forced to use a different editor to learn WebDNA - unless they used the labs feature of WebDNA. An appliance allows the same abilities to test different servers and systems but it still allows the normal system to operate in parallel. That means that a user can continue to edit their files (including Photoshop, Flash, etc.) on their existing platform, while learning and testing WebDNA on a different one - all at the same time. The entire OS and server run in their own sandbox as if they were on a separate machine. It's really quite nice. Yes, this requires a copy of VMware or VMware fusion, but anyone operating servers and designing pages is probably doing something like this in order to test their sites on different platforms. VMWare already offers almost 1000 such appliances for testing databases, IDEs, and a bunch of other stuff. There already is a Cold Fusion appliance. This also eliminates the need to either physically distribute CDs, because the appliance is downloadable, or having to train users about how to burn and boot from LiveCDs. There is even a section of VMware devoted to usint it to boot live CDs! This is a little confusing at first, but the way it works is you download a disk image of the Live CD, tell VMware where it is, and then tell VMware to boot it as though you were booting from the physical disk. The LiveCD boots and runs within a session, behaves just as if you were only running that CD, but still runs your normal system and software at the same time. Also, because VMware virtualizes hard drives, etc, the user doesn't loose any data from a RAM disk when they return to their normal system. Everything is saves whenever the appliance is suspended. Pat On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > Okay here's my concept: > > Create a LiveCD that lets anyone experiment with WebDNA > immediately, simply by booting their desktop or laptop > machines directly from the CD. This means: > > - a super-simple system that needs NO installation > - runs on almost ANY computer with a CD writer > - will NOT change a thing on existing hard drive(s) > - pre-configured with everything ready to use > > Just boot from the CD, open the pre-installed browser and > text editor, and start programming WebDNA. That's all > there is to it! > > A self-contained training and/or development environment on > a single CD ... and yes, all changes will be saved to the > same CD too. > > Opinions anyone? > > Sincerely, > Ken Grome > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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The difference between a LiveCD version versus an appliance is that the LiveCD is the only OS and server running. A user may well be forced to use a different editor to learn WebDNA - unless they used the labs feature of WebDNA. An appliance allows the same abilities to test different servers and systems but it still allows the normal system to operate in parallel. That means that a user can continue to edit their files (including Photoshop, Flash, etc.) on their existing platform, while learning and testing WebDNA on a different one - all at the same time. The entire OS and server run in their own sandbox as if they were on a separate machine. It's really quite nice. Yes, this requires a copy of VMware or VMware fusion, but anyone operating servers and designing pages is probably doing something like this in order to test their sites on different platforms. VMWare already offers almost 1000 such appliances for testing databases, IDEs, and a bunch of other stuff. There already is a Cold Fusion appliance. This also eliminates the need to either physically distribute CDs, because the appliance is downloadable, or having to train users about how to burn and boot from LiveCDs. There is even a section of VMware devoted to usint it to boot live CDs! This is a little confusing at first, but the way it works is you download a disk image of the Live CD, tell VMware where it is, and then tell VMware to boot it as though you were booting from the physical disk. The LiveCD boots and runs within a session, behaves just as if you were only running that CD, but still runs your normal system and software at the same time. Also, because VMware virtualizes hard drives, etc, the user doesn't loose any data from a RAM disk when they return to their normal system. Everything is saves whenever the appliance is suspended. Pat On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > Okay here's my concept: > > Create a LiveCD that lets anyone experiment with WebDNA > immediately, simply by booting their desktop or laptop > machines directly from the CD. This means: > > - a super-simple system that needs NO installation > - runs on almost ANY computer with a CD writer > - will NOT change a thing on existing hard drive(s) > - pre-configured with everything ready to use > > Just boot from the CD, open the pre-installed browser and > text editor, and start programming WebDNA. That's all > there is to it! > > A self-contained training and/or development environment on > a single CD ... and yes, all changes will be saved to the > same CD too. > > Opinions anyone? > > Sincerely, > Ken Grome > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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