Re: WebDNA 6
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2004
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 56142
interpreted = N
texte = Just for accuracy, we did not eliminate unlimited domains in the 5.Xversion of the product. Unlimited domain capability remained available,and at the same price point the product had sold for in the 4.X version,so anyone that considered purchasing a 4.X product back when 5.0 wasintroduced had the same unlimited domain capability available at thesame price point with a more robust product. We ADDED per domainlicensing as a means to offer a lower price point for customers thatdidn't require unlimited domains.=20As for the upgrade pricing for 4.X to 6.0 ... It's the same that youwould have paid to upgrade 4.X to 5.X yesterday, so the decision to makethis a 6.0 release has no effect on the 4.X portion of the community.5.X to 6.0 upgrades are discounted given that anyone with 5.X is a morerecent purchaser.And I have one point here of folks like Nitai, Palle, etc., if youbelieve this is so unfair, I challenge you to step up to your own wordsand put well over 4,000 man-hours of your own time into developing yourown new product features and then give it away for free. Walk the talkif you really believe your own words here. I don't know how you wouldafford to continue to offer your services to support your product andcommunity.Phil B.-----Original Message-----From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf OfPalle Bo NielsenSent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:12 AMTo: WebDNA TalkSubject: Re: WebDNA 6Hi Nitai and Smith Micro,I could not agree more about the right boat...I upgraded from 4.x til 5.x with unlim. domains for 1.000. Now I need tocash up with an additional 500 for version 6. If I stayed at version4 I can now upgrade to 6 for 1.000 incl. unlim. domains. That is like####### on your version 5 customers.I seem to remember SM stating that 5.2 would be the next release and itwould be available free for 5.x users incl. the MySQL support. That didNOT happen and where are all the 5.x bug-fixes for version 5.x users?I seem to remember that SM took the unlim. domains out of the productfrom 4.x to 5.x and made us pay additional 500.I seem to remember that SM called the new Mac OS X version a Unixversion earlier and made us pay 500 to cross grade. Now its a Macversion again.What is happening here...I start to ask myself why I keep on letting SM do this to me as a loyalcustomer. I like the product but I don't like to be fooled. So as Notaiwrote "I really start asking myself if I am in the right boat!!!!!!" <-I could not agree more. This feels like a sinking boat not worthspending any more money on.A clarification from SM would be appreciated.Sorry about my mood...PalleOn 17/2-2004, at 17.00, Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote:> On 17/2/04 4:22 PM, "Donovan Brooke"
wrote:>>> Well, it looks to be shipping!>> I must have missed something?>>>> http://webdna.smithmicro.net/>> With all due to respect for SMSI and WebDNA, BUT paying another $500=20> for a update to 6.0, which actually just adds the MySQL native support> and most of us just paid $1000 for a commerce/unlimited domain update=20> from 4.5.x to 5.x.> I realy start to ask myself if I am in the right boat!!!!!!!!>> Nitai>> --> Redakto - Content Management that simply works Content Management &=20> eBusiness Systems>> ComputerOil(r) AG> Dammstrasse 7> 5400 Baden / Switzerland> Telefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66>> info@computeroil.com> http://computeroil.com>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to=20> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>--Venlig hilsenPalle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle)http://www.macnyt.dk/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail toWeb Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Just for accuracy, we did not eliminate unlimited domains in the 5.Xversion of the product. Unlimited domain capability remained available,and at the same price point the product had sold for in the 4.X version,so anyone that considered purchasing a 4.X product back when 5.0 wasintroduced had the same unlimited domain capability available at thesame price point with a more robust product. We ADDED per domainlicensing as a means to offer a lower price point for customers thatdidn't require unlimited domains.=20As for the upgrade pricing for 4.X to 6.0 ... It's the same that youwould have paid to upgrade 4.X to 5.X yesterday, so the decision to makethis a 6.0 release has no effect on the 4.X portion of the community.5.X to 6.0 upgrades are discounted given that anyone with 5.X is a morerecent purchaser.And I have one point here of folks like Nitai, Palle, etc., if youbelieve this is so unfair, I challenge you to step up to your own wordsand put well over 4,000 man-hours of your own time into developing yourown new product features and then give it away for free. Walk the talkif you really believe your own words here. I don't know how you wouldafford to continue to offer your services to support your product andcommunity.Phil B.-----Original Message-----From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf OfPalle Bo NielsenSent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:12 AMTo: WebDNA TalkSubject: Re: WebDNA 6Hi Nitai and Smith Micro,I could not agree more about the right boat...I upgraded from 4.x til 5.x with unlim. domains for 1.000. Now I need tocash up with an additional 500 for version 6. If I stayed at version4 I can now upgrade to 6 for 1.000 incl. unlim. domains. That is like####### on your version 5 customers.I seem to remember SM stating that 5.2 would be the next release and itwould be available free for 5.x users incl. the MySQL support. That didNOT happen and where are all the 5.x bug-fixes for version 5.x users?I seem to remember that SM took the unlim. domains out of the productfrom 4.x to 5.x and made us pay additional 500.I seem to remember that SM called the new Mac OS X version a Unixversion earlier and made us pay 500 to cross grade. Now its a Macversion again.What is happening here...I start to ask myself why I keep on letting SM do this to me as a loyalcustomer. I like the product but I don't like to be fooled. So as Notaiwrote "I really start asking myself if I am in the right boat!!!!!!" <-I could not agree more. This feels like a sinking boat not worthspending any more money on.A clarification from SM would be appreciated.Sorry about my mood...PalleOn 17/2-2004, at 17.00, Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote:> On 17/2/04 4:22 PM, "Donovan Brooke" wrote:>>> Well, it looks to be shipping!>> I must have missed something?>>>> http://webdna.smithmicro.net/>> With all due to respect for SMSI and WebDNA, BUT paying another $500=20> for a update to 6.0, which actually just adds the MySQL native support> and most of us just paid $1000 for a commerce/unlimited domain update=20> from 4.5.x to 5.x.> I realy start to ask myself if I am in the right boat!!!!!!!!>> Nitai>> --> Redakto - Content Management that simply works Content Management &=20> eBusiness Systems>> ComputerOil(r) AG> Dammstrasse 7> 5400 Baden / Switzerland> Telefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66>> info@computeroil.com> http://computeroil.com>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to=20> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>--Venlig hilsenPalle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle)http://www.macnyt.dk/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail toWeb Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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