Re: Here we go again...

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2006


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texte = Thanks Kenneth. Thanks for clarifying the myth. I think it is important for developers to understand the facts. WebDNA = is not "relational" database. By database definition, you must meet = certain criteria to call something "relational" database. MS Access is not a true database because it didn't meet all the = criteria. Bess -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Kenneth Grome Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:12 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Here we go again... On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:42:44 -0600, Pat McCormick wrote: > Actually WebDNA doesn't use a flat file. That is the case for the=20 > older Typhoon version, but WebDNA, simply because it can have=20 > multiple databases open, is no longer a flat file system. This is ridiculous. Webdna has always been a flat file database system = just like Bess said. It can open multiple flat file databases at a time = -- but so what? That does NOT make it a relational system by any means! > The purpose for products like Oracle, SQL and other "databases" is to=20 > encrypt your text so that you need to buy their products to see your=20 > text. This is another bad assumption. MySQL for example doesn't encrypt any = data, all its data is right there in files that can be edited by a text = editor. And MySQL certainly falls into the "SQL" category you = mentioned, right? I really don't mind people being "in love" with webdna and bragging = about it, but at the same time I think you should not make statements = that are your personal assumptions when they are sometimes far from the = truth. Webdna is clearly not the best solution for web sites that = benefit from relational systems, especially where large data sets are = involved. I have proven this on several occasions and so have others = I'm sure. Sincerely,=20 Kenneth Grome=20 owner@kengrome.com kengrome@gmail.com www.kengrome.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  2. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  3. Re: Here we go again... ( "sal danna" 2006)
  4. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  5. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  6. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  7. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  8. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  9. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  10. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  11. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  12. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  13. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Stored Procedures ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  14. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  15. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  16. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  17. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  18. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  19. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  20. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Stored Procedures ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  21. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  22. Re: Here we go again... ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  23. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  24. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  25. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  26. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  27. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  28. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Bob Minor 2006)
  29. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  30. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  31. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  32. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  33. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  34. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  35. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  36. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  37. Re: Here we go again... ( Marc Thompson 2006)
  38. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  39. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  40. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  41. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  42. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  43. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  44. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  45. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  46. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  47. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  48. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  49. Re: Here we go again... ( Chris 2006)
  50. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  51. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  52. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  53. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  54. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  55. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  56. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  57. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  58. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  59. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  60. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  61. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  62. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Robie Blair 2006)
  63. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  64. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  65. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  66. Re: Here we go again... ( Larry Hewitt 2006)
  67. Re: Here we go again... ( Phil Herring 2006)
  68. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  69. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  70. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  71. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  72. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  73. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  74. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  75. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  76. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  77. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  78. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  79. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  80. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  81. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  82. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  83. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  84. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  85. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  86. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  87. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  88. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  89. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  90. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Jay Van Vark 2006)
  91. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  92. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  93. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Gary Krockover 2006)
  94. Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
Thanks Kenneth. Thanks for clarifying the myth. I think it is important for developers to understand the facts. WebDNA = is not "relational" database. By database definition, you must meet = certain criteria to call something "relational" database. MS Access is not a true database because it didn't meet all the = criteria. Bess -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Kenneth Grome Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:12 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Here we go again... On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:42:44 -0600, Pat McCormick wrote: > Actually WebDNA doesn't use a flat file. That is the case for the=20 > older Typhoon version, but WebDNA, simply because it can have=20 > multiple databases open, is no longer a flat file system. This is ridiculous. Webdna has always been a flat file database system = just like Bess said. It can open multiple flat file databases at a time = -- but so what? That does NOT make it a relational system by any means! > The purpose for products like Oracle, SQL and other "databases" is to=20 > encrypt your text so that you need to buy their products to see your=20 > text. This is another bad assumption. MySQL for example doesn't encrypt any = data, all its data is right there in files that can be edited by a text = editor. And MySQL certainly falls into the "SQL" category you = mentioned, right? I really don't mind people being "in love" with webdna and bragging = about it, but at the same time I think you should not make statements = that are your personal assumptions when they are sometimes far from the = truth. Webdna is clearly not the best solution for web sites that = benefit from relational systems, especially where large data sets are = involved. I have proven this on several occasions and so have others = I'm sure. Sincerely,=20 Kenneth Grome=20 owner@kengrome.com kengrome@gmail.com www.kengrome.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Bess Ho"

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