Re: Here we go again...
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texte = True words. We have had customers that are asking what database w= e use laugh at us because we use a flat file system (thought whol= e unix is based on it). Since we moved to SQL (with WebDNA) no one ever says a word. On a= nother topic, we moved our newest application to another scriptin= g language and use Oracle database, now all of the sudden everybo= dy says it is Enterprise capable. I think for every business (not personal taste) to survive one ha= s to accept what is so called standard. SQL is a standard and is=20= used all over. To use SQL with every new project you got is simpl= y a wise decision for your future. Now technically speaking I have yet to see how a flat file databa= se can interact with a online shop, the order show up at the same= time in the SAP system checks on the purchase limit of the custo= mer, sends out a web service to another supplier to see if that i= tem is in stock, then merge it back, sends out another call to SA= P and then send an email to the customer telling him all is on st= ock or not :-))))) Nitai -- eContentPark - Enterprise Digital Asset Management eServices - The complete SupportSuite eSurvey - Online Questionnaire made easy Redakto CMS - Content Management that simply works ComputerOil=C2=AE AG Neugutstrasse 66 8600 D=C3=BCbendorf / Switzerland Telefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66 info@computeroil.com http://computeroil.com > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On B= ehalf Of > Adam O'Connor > Sent: Dienstag, 4. April 2006 00:16 > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: Here we go again... > > I agree. The fact that you can 'relationalize' web cat simply=20= points > out that you are a talented scripter. > > Generally speaking sometimes tasks are best written with webcat= 's native > flat file db system. But in certain cases some of us find SQL=20= a better > data system, due to its accessibility, reliability, and capacit= y among > other things. > > I don't see the need to take a side on which is better, all dep= ends what > you are using it for. Although I do lean more towards the SQL.= Quite > frankly it is simple to use, so why not take advantage and blen= d your > proprietary knowledge with an industry-wide technology - in the= end you > have benefited by broadening your skill set by learning to use=20= an > industry standard data management system. Afterall, by implemen= ting SQL > into your webdna webapps, you may get more out of webdna. > > > > > > > Bess Ho wrote: > > It is important to clarify these things to other WebDNA devel= opers so > that they can be wiser in selecting database type to start thei= r project. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On=20= Behalf Of > > Donovan Brooke > > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:20 PM > > To: WebDNA Talk > > Subject: Re: Here we go again... > > > > > > Bess Ho wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks Kenneth. Thanks for clarifying the myth. > >> > >> I think it is important for developers to understand the fac= ts. > >> > > > WebDNA is not "relational" database. By database definitio= n, > > > you must meet certain criteria to call something "relation= al" > database. > > > >> MS Access is not a true database because it didn't meet all=20= the > criteria. > >> > >> Bess > >> > > > > > > Sure it is. > > If you have data in one text file database that effects anoth= er > database's > > records when edited.. you've essentially created a relational= database. > Now, > > there are deeper and darker "definitions" of how data is save= d / > manipulated.. > > but creating a relational database framework in webdna is not= advanced > and it > > is just as secure. > > > > Donovan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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True words. We have had customers that are asking what database w= e use laugh at us because we use a flat file system (thought whol= e unix is based on it). Since we moved to SQL (with WebDNA) no one ever says a word. On a= nother topic, we moved our newest application to another scriptin= g language and use Oracle database, now all of the sudden everybo= dy says it is Enterprise capable. I think for every business (not personal taste) to survive one ha= s to accept what is so called standard. SQL is a standard and is=20= used all over. To use SQL with every new project you got is simpl= y a wise decision for your future. Now technically speaking I have yet to see how a flat file databa= se can interact with a online shop, the order show up at the same= time in the SAP system checks on the purchase limit of the custo= mer, sends out a web service to another supplier to see if that i= tem is in stock, then merge it back, sends out another call to SA= P and then send an email to the customer telling him all is on st= ock or not :-))))) Nitai -- eContentPark - Enterprise Digital Asset Management eServices - The complete SupportSuite eSurvey - Online Questionnaire made easy Redakto CMS - Content Management that simply works ComputerOil=C2=AE AG Neugutstrasse 66 8600 D=C3=BCbendorf / Switzerland Telefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66 info@computeroil.com http://computeroil.com > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On B= ehalf Of > Adam O'Connor > Sent: Dienstag, 4. April 2006 00:16 > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: Here we go again... > > I agree. The fact that you can 'relationalize' web cat simply=20= points > out that you are a talented scripter. > > Generally speaking sometimes tasks are best written with webcat= 's native > flat file db system. But in certain cases some of us find SQL=20= a better > data system, due to its accessibility, reliability, and capacit= y among > other things. > > I don't see the need to take a side on which is better, all dep= ends what > you are using it for. Although I do lean more towards the SQL.= Quite > frankly it is simple to use, so why not take advantage and blen= d your > proprietary knowledge with an industry-wide technology - in the= end you > have benefited by broadening your skill set by learning to use=20= an > industry standard data management system. Afterall, by implemen= ting SQL > into your webdna webapps, you may get more out of webdna. > > > > > > > Bess Ho wrote: > > It is important to clarify these things to other WebDNA devel= opers so > that they can be wiser in selecting database type to start thei= r project. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On=20= Behalf Of > > Donovan Brooke > > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:20 PM > > To: WebDNA Talk > > Subject: Re: Here we go again... > > > > > > Bess Ho wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks Kenneth. Thanks for clarifying the myth. > >> > >> I think it is important for developers to understand the fac= ts. > >> > > > WebDNA is not "relational" database. By database definitio= n, > > > you must meet certain criteria to call something "relation= al" > database. > > > >> MS Access is not a true database because it didn't meet all=20= the > criteria. > >> > >> Bess > >> > > > > > > Sure it is. > > If you have data in one text file database that effects anoth= er > database's > > records when edited.. you've essentially created a relational= database. > Now, > > there are deeper and darker "definitions" of how data is save= d / > manipulated.. > > but creating a relational database framework in webdna is not= advanced > and it > > is just as secure. > > > > Donovan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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