Re: Here we go again...
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texte = Thanks for your kind words. Part of my background is instructor. So it = is important to clarify the definition and layout the facts. There are a lot more thoughts on selecting the database in both business = and technical sense. Flat file makes it too much hassle to do any = business intelligences, data mining or even reporting. It is not = scalable for enterprise application. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Adam O'Connor Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:16 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Here we go again... I agree. The fact that you can 'relationalize' web cat simply points=20 out that you are a talented scripter. Generally speaking sometimes tasks are best written with webcat's native = flat file db system. But in certain cases some of us find SQL a better=20 data system, due to its accessibility, reliability, and capacity among=20 other things.=20 I don't see the need to take a side on which is better, all depends what = you are using it for. Although I do lean more towards the SQL. Quite=20 frankly it is simple to use, so why not take advantage and blend your=20 proprietary knowledge with an industry-wide technology - in the end you=20 have benefited by broadening your skill set by learning to use an=20 industry standard data management system. Afterall, by implementing SQL=20 into your webdna webapps, you may get more out of webdna. Bess Ho wrote: > It is important to clarify these things to other WebDNA developers so = that they can be wiser in selecting database type to start their = project. > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of > Donovan Brooke > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:20 PM > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: Here we go again... > > > Bess Ho wrote: > > =20 >> Thanks Kenneth. Thanks for clarifying the myth. >> >> I think it is important for developers to understand the facts.=20 >> =20 > > WebDNA is not "relational" database. By database definition, > > you must meet certain criteria to call something "relational" = database. > =20 >> MS Access is not a true database because it didn't meet all the = criteria. >> >> Bess >> =20 > > > Sure it is. > If you have data in one text file database that effects another = database's > records when edited.. you've essentially created a relational = database. Now, > there are deeper and darker "definitions" of how data is saved / = manipulated.. > but creating a relational database framework in webdna is not advanced = and it > is just as secure. > > Donovan > > > > > > > > > =20 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Thanks for your kind words. Part of my background is instructor. So it = is important to clarify the definition and layout the facts. There are a lot more thoughts on selecting the database in both business = and technical sense. Flat file makes it too much hassle to do any = business intelligences, data mining or even reporting. It is not = scalable for enterprise application. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Adam O'Connor Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:16 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Here we go again... I agree. The fact that you can 'relationalize' web cat simply points=20 out that you are a talented scripter. Generally speaking sometimes tasks are best written with webcat's native = flat file db system. But in certain cases some of us find SQL a better=20 data system, due to its accessibility, reliability, and capacity among=20 other things.=20 I don't see the need to take a side on which is better, all depends what = you are using it for. Although I do lean more towards the SQL. Quite=20 frankly it is simple to use, so why not take advantage and blend your=20 proprietary knowledge with an industry-wide technology - in the end you=20 have benefited by broadening your skill set by learning to use an=20 industry standard data management system. Afterall, by implementing SQL=20 into your webdna webapps, you may get more out of webdna. Bess Ho wrote: > It is important to clarify these things to other WebDNA developers so = that they can be wiser in selecting database type to start their = project. > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of > Donovan Brooke > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:20 PM > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: Here we go again... > > > Bess Ho wrote: > > =20 >> Thanks Kenneth. Thanks for clarifying the myth. >> >> I think it is important for developers to understand the facts.=20 >> =20 > > WebDNA is not "relational" database. By database definition, > > you must meet certain criteria to call something "relational" = database. > =20 >> MS Access is not a true database because it didn't meet all the = criteria. >> >> Bess >> =20 > > > Sure it is. > If you have data in one text file database that effects another = database's > records when edited.. you've essentially created a relational = database. Now, > there are deeper and darker "definitions" of how data is saved / = manipulated.. > but creating a relational database framework in webdna is not advanced = and it > is just as secure. > > Donovan > > > > > > > > > =20 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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