Re: Here we go again...

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2006


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texte = You may want to explore Dreamweaver 8. It is the merger version of = Drumbeat. It has many features that can help the development work and = plugin to use. WebDNA is just another option but I have to agree the = sandbox for e-commerce shopping cart is pretty much a ready-to-go box = for implementation. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Marc Thompson Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:58 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Here we go again... I agree with Donovan. Several years ago when I was first introduced to=20 WebCatalog I too had my doubts about using text files for a database=20 format. However, after using it for many small and some large projects=20 it has performed very well indeed. I've built several relational backends using WebCatalog's flat file=20 database scheme. I opt to look at a flat file "database" as simply a=20 table. Add to that any number of other "tables" with columns that=20 contain data that's related to other table columns and voila, you have a = relational database. Keeping data integrity sound between tables is entirely up to the=20 programmer. You only expose editing of fields in your admin pages that=20 will not compromise the relations programmed into your application. One such system I built a few years ago contains 12 "tables" with=20 relational constraints built into the application. It was actually=20 quite easy to build with WebCatalog. The largest table to date contains = almost 50,000 records and the application still runs as snappy as when = it first went live back in 2002. I'd hate to see WebCatalog die. It's by far the simplest and quickest=20 method I've ever seen or used to build a dynamic web presence or to=20 collect, save and manipulate form data. So, for small to mediaum sized needs where traffic isn't expected to be=20 google in nature, WebCatalog is the only way to go. Marc Thompson Donovan Brooke wrote: > Bess Ho wrote: >=20 >> Thanks Kenneth. Thanks for clarifying the myth. >> >> I think it is important for developers to understand the facts.=20 >=20 > > WebDNA is not "relational" database. By database definition, > > you must meet certain criteria to call something "relational" = database. >=20 >> >> MS Access is not a true database because it didn't meet all the = criteria. >> >> Bess >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sure it is. > If you have data in one text file database that effects another = database's > records when edited.. you've essentially created a relational = database.=20 > Now, > there are deeper and darker "definitions" of how data is saved /=20 > manipulated.. > but creating a relational database framework in webdna is not advanced = > and it > is just as secure. >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 ------------------------------------------- Marc Thompson Software Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Utah 801.585.9264 marc.thompson@utah.edu ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  2. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  3. Re: Here we go again... ( "sal danna" 2006)
  4. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  5. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  6. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  7. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  8. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  9. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  10. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  11. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  12. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  13. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Stored Procedures ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  14. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  15. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  16. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  17. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  18. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  19. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  20. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Stored Procedures ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  21. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  22. Re: Here we go again... ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  23. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  24. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  25. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  26. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  27. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  28. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Bob Minor 2006)
  29. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  30. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  31. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  32. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  33. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  34. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  35. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  36. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  37. Re: Here we go again... ( Marc Thompson 2006)
  38. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  39. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  40. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  41. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  42. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  43. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  44. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  45. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  46. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  47. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  48. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  49. Re: Here we go again... ( Chris 2006)
  50. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  51. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  52. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  53. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  54. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  55. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  56. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  57. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  58. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  59. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  60. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  61. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  62. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Robie Blair 2006)
  63. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  64. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  65. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  66. Re: Here we go again... ( Larry Hewitt 2006)
  67. Re: Here we go again... ( Phil Herring 2006)
  68. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  69. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  70. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  71. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  72. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  73. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  74. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  75. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  76. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  77. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  78. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  79. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  80. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  81. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  82. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  83. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  84. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  85. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  86. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  87. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  88. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  89. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  90. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Jay Van Vark 2006)
  91. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  92. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  93. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Gary Krockover 2006)
  94. Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
You may want to explore Dreamweaver 8. It is the merger version of = Drumbeat. It has many features that can help the development work and = plugin to use. WebDNA is just another option but I have to agree the = sandbox for e-commerce shopping cart is pretty much a ready-to-go box = for implementation. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Marc Thompson Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:58 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Here we go again... I agree with Donovan. Several years ago when I was first introduced to=20 WebCatalog I too had my doubts about using text files for a database=20 format. However, after using it for many small and some large projects=20 it has performed very well indeed. I've built several relational backends using WebCatalog's flat file=20 database scheme. I opt to look at a flat file "database" as simply a=20 table. Add to that any number of other "tables" with columns that=20 contain data that's related to other table columns and voila, you have a = relational database. Keeping data integrity sound between tables is entirely up to the=20 programmer. You only expose editing of fields in your admin pages that=20 will not compromise the relations programmed into your application. One such system I built a few years ago contains 12 "tables" with=20 relational constraints built into the application. It was actually=20 quite easy to build with WebCatalog. The largest table to date contains = almost 50,000 records and the application still runs as snappy as when = it first went live back in 2002. I'd hate to see WebCatalog die. It's by far the simplest and quickest=20 method I've ever seen or used to build a dynamic web presence or to=20 collect, save and manipulate form data. So, for small to mediaum sized needs where traffic isn't expected to be=20 google in nature, WebCatalog is the only way to go. Marc Thompson Donovan Brooke wrote: > Bess Ho wrote: >=20 >> Thanks Kenneth. Thanks for clarifying the myth. >> >> I think it is important for developers to understand the facts.=20 >=20 > > WebDNA is not "relational" database. By database definition, > > you must meet certain criteria to call something "relational" = database. >=20 >> >> MS Access is not a true database because it didn't meet all the = criteria. >> >> Bess >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sure it is. > If you have data in one text file database that effects another = database's > records when edited.. you've essentially created a relational = database.=20 > Now, > there are deeper and darker "definitions" of how data is saved /=20 > manipulated.. > but creating a relational database framework in webdna is not advanced = > and it > is just as secure. >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 ------------------------------------------- Marc Thompson Software Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Utah 801.585.9264 marc.thompson@utah.edu ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Bess Ho"

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