Re: Here we go again...

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2006


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texte = I don't see how webcat can remain competitive when there are other hypertext preprocessors out there - better ones that are free i.e. PHP. I think the main reason SM is being kept alive is from the people who have too much time invested in WebDNA and don't want to make the switch at this point. But, as service and support continues to be poor, eventually more and more people are going to have to switch to a more mainstream platform. I have been developing with webcat for 10 years now, and really do enjoy working with it. But every client I have worked with have had the same complaints, lack of support, lack of development community, lack of industry acknowledgment, etc... Bottom line, after spending all this cash, they feel boxed in. As the subject line goes, here we go again.... Donovan Brooke wrote: > Terry Wilson wrote: > >> You cannot hum along indefinitely at status quo unless you are in an >> isolated environment, not hooked into the the outside world. The need >> to upgrade software is more often dictated by technology growing up >> around us and demanding new features. Perfect example: anyone >> blithely sticking with WebCat ver 3 is unable to do >> TCPConnect/TCPSend, and therefore it's a matter of time before >> Authorize.net will cut off processing from those servers. >> >> Abandonware eventually becomes obsolete in a growing environment. >> >> Terry >> >> At 2:00 AM -0800 3/30/06, WebDNA Talk wrote: >> >>> >>> For my purposes WedDNA does everything I want/need, a new version >>> would have to include some whizz bang for me to upgrade. > > > > Also, Webdna can't stay at the same price without remaining in a > competitive > tech curve. CF is being upgraded/supported for near the same pricing. > People will see the extra features/support in CF and have a hard time > not choosing > it over webdna. > > Hmmm, Only SMSI knows what they are going to do with it.... and I > think I need to stop thinking about it and get to coding my clients work! > > Donovan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  2. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  3. Re: Here we go again... ( "sal danna" 2006)
  4. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  5. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  6. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  7. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  8. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  9. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  10. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  11. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  12. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  13. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Stored Procedures ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  14. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  15. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  16. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  17. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  18. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  19. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  20. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Stored Procedures ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  21. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  22. Re: Here we go again... ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  23. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  24. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  25. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  26. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  27. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  28. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Bob Minor 2006)
  29. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  30. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  31. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  32. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  33. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  34. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  35. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  36. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  37. Re: Here we go again... ( Marc Thompson 2006)
  38. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  39. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  40. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  41. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  42. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  43. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  44. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  45. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  46. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  47. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  48. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  49. Re: Here we go again... ( Chris 2006)
  50. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  51. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  52. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  53. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  54. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  55. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  56. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  57. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  58. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  59. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  60. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  61. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  62. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Robie Blair 2006)
  63. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  64. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  65. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  66. Re: Here we go again... ( Larry Hewitt 2006)
  67. Re: Here we go again... ( Phil Herring 2006)
  68. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  69. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  70. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  71. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  72. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  73. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  74. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  75. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  76. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  77. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  78. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  79. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  80. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  81. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  82. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  83. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  84. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  85. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  86. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  87. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  88. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  89. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  90. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Jay Van Vark 2006)
  91. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  92. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  93. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Gary Krockover 2006)
  94. Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
I don't see how webcat can remain competitive when there are other hypertext preprocessors out there - better ones that are free i.e. PHP. I think the main reason SM is being kept alive is from the people who have too much time invested in WebDNA and don't want to make the switch at this point. But, as service and support continues to be poor, eventually more and more people are going to have to switch to a more mainstream platform. I have been developing with webcat for 10 years now, and really do enjoy working with it. But every client I have worked with have had the same complaints, lack of support, lack of development community, lack of industry acknowledgment, etc... Bottom line, after spending all this cash, they feel boxed in. As the subject line goes, here we go again.... Donovan Brooke wrote: > Terry Wilson wrote: > >> You cannot hum along indefinitely at status quo unless you are in an >> isolated environment, not hooked into the the outside world. The need >> to upgrade software is more often dictated by technology growing up >> around us and demanding new features. Perfect example: anyone >> blithely sticking with WebCat ver 3 is unable to do >> TCPConnect/TCPSend, and therefore it's a matter of time before >> Authorize.net will cut off processing from those servers. >> >> Abandonware eventually becomes obsolete in a growing environment. >> >> Terry >> >> At 2:00 AM -0800 3/30/06, WebDNA Talk wrote: >> >>> >>> For my purposes WedDNA does everything I want/need, a new version >>> would have to include some whizz bang for me to upgrade. > > > > Also, Webdna can't stay at the same price without remaining in a > competitive > tech curve. CF is being upgraded/supported for near the same pricing. > People will see the extra features/support in CF and have a hard time > not choosing > it over webdna. > > Hmmm, Only SMSI knows what they are going to do with it.... and I > think I need to stop thinking about it and get to coding my clients work! > > Donovan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Adam O'Connor

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