Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2008
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 101155
interpreted = N
texte = A program to have it install on all server software would be the way to achieve this. WebDNA SC would need to negotiate with Apple, Miscrosloth and the Linux players to have it included on their install discs as an optional install. On 14/10/2008, at 2:20 PM, Meyers, David E. wrote: > A few additional thoughts -- First - I apologize for stirring the > bee hive - but I really believe all the comments, are meant to truly > improve WebDNA, its presence and acceptance. We all agree these guys > are HEROES for rescuing WebDNA. Major kuddos. > > I understand the cost of production and how creating web solutions > can be quicker and more efficient - thus saving in the end - but I > feel we are missing a bigger picture. Consider this. I have taught > at four different universities, one being a top design and computer > graphics school (Recently named #1 by US News and WR). None of these > schools teach WebDNA - they all teach php for dynamic solutions. I > actually proposed a class using WebDNA and it was shot down because > of its "rarity". Php is universal and installed nearly everywhere. > The problem as I see it is that we need a wider install base - Is > there any major or mid-level host that supports WebDNA. If we cannot > get wider instals, it will continue to be a "boutique" type > solution, better, but rare and it can never reach its potential > because of it being smothered by an (shall I say) inferior competitor? > > Can we work out deals with all the major hosts some how? How can we > get it accepted to a wider set of hosts who host and serve? Possibly > give it to the major players? I agree with the comments earlier > regarding "most clients do not want solutions that can't be migrated > to other hosts, developers, etc." > > > Aloha > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Grome [mailto:gfj.sender@gmail.com] > Sent: Mon 10/13/2008 9:59 PM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? > > I agree Bob, and I wasn't trying to suggest that we should > use the lowest cost hosting service ... > > My point was that when a WebDNA CGI is released everyone in > the world will be able to use it -- on whatever hosting > service or server they choose -- even if their choice > happens to be the cheapest host on the planet. > > Big, small, fast, slow, expensive, cheap or free -- CGI's > run on practically all servers -- that's the bottom line. > > Sincerely, > Ken Grome > > > > > > >> Actually I don't see how hosting at $10 per month or $30 >> per month could be the death of any website. Its like >> trying to save pennies while burning dollars. Now if your >> talking about a non-profit on a shoe string that is an >> issue. But even at $500 a year hosting shouldn't be your >> issue. > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
. > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >
Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:
A program to have it install on all server software would be the way to achieve this. WebDNA SC would need to negotiate with Apple, Miscrosloth and the Linux players to have it included on their install discs as an optional install. On 14/10/2008, at 2:20 PM, Meyers, David E. wrote: > A few additional thoughts -- First - I apologize for stirring the > bee hive - but I really believe all the comments, are meant to truly > improve WebDNA, its presence and acceptance. We all agree these guys > are HEROES for rescuing WebDNA. Major kuddos. > > I understand the cost of production and how creating web solutions > can be quicker and more efficient - thus saving in the end - but I > feel we are missing a bigger picture. Consider this. I have taught > at four different universities, one being a top design and computer > graphics school (Recently named #1 by US News and WR). None of these > schools teach WebDNA - they all teach php for dynamic solutions. I > actually proposed a class using WebDNA and it was shot down because > of its "rarity". Php is universal and installed nearly everywhere. > The problem as I see it is that we need a wider install base - Is > there any major or mid-level host that supports WebDNA. If we cannot > get wider instals, it will continue to be a "boutique" type > solution, better, but rare and it can never reach its potential > because of it being smothered by an (shall I say) inferior competitor? > > Can we work out deals with all the major hosts some how? How can we > get it accepted to a wider set of hosts who host and serve? Possibly > give it to the major players? I agree with the comments earlier > regarding "most clients do not want solutions that can't be migrated > to other hosts, developers, etc." > > > Aloha > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Grome [mailto:gfj.sender@gmail.com] > Sent: Mon 10/13/2008 9:59 PM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? > > I agree Bob, and I wasn't trying to suggest that we should > use the lowest cost hosting service ... > > My point was that when a WebDNA CGI is released everyone in > the world will be able to use it -- on whatever hosting > service or server they choose -- even if their choice > happens to be the cheapest host on the planet. > > Big, small, fast, slow, expensive, cheap or free -- CGI's > run on practically all servers -- that's the bottom line. > > Sincerely, > Ken Grome > > > > > > >> Actually I don't see how hosting at $10 per month or $30 >> per month could be the death of any website. Its like >> trying to save pennies while burning dollars. Now if your >> talking about a non-profit on a shoe string that is an >> issue. But even at $500 a year hosting shouldn't be your >> issue. > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >
Stuart Tremain
DOWNLOAD WEBDNA NOW!
Top Articles:
Talk List
The WebDNA community talk-list is the best place to get some help: several hundred extremely proficient programmers with an excellent knowledge of WebDNA and an excellent spirit will deliver all the tips and tricks you can imagine...
Related Readings:
Rendering out a page (1997)
WebCatalog dying in NT (1998)
RE: Adding headers to email (1997)
syntax question, not in online refernce (1997)
database size? (1997)
Cookies and webcat (1997)
well sort of - database design (2003)
Colors (2000)
no global [username] or [password] displayed ... (1997)
international time (1997)
[WebDNA] 8.0.2 Install on Yosemite Fails (2015)
possible, WebCat2.0 and checkboxes-restated (1997)
Bug Report, maybe (1997)
[WebDNA] responsive designs rows (2018)
Date Formats (1997)
date sorting and 'template (1997)
If Empty ? (1997)
How do you TEAM Code? (2004)
NT or Mac (1997)
quantity minimum problem (1997)