Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy?
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texte = Meyers, David E. wrote: > Strategy? Think marketing and business not tech… > > I have been a WebDNA fan since I bought the original plug-in for 5 grand over ten years ago. I have no where near the programming and “tech” ability of those that I see commenting on the talk lists – in fact, half of the talk list comments are greek to me. I continue to contract out to some true WebDNA experts that have been with the software for years. I will share the observations that I shared with Smith Micro – who I feel we all agree mismanaged and had little care for supporting WebDNA. > > As stated by Olin - Creating, managing, extending, modifying,? searching and editing databases is about as easy as it gets. Bottom line – it is VERY simple and VERY powerful… Hell, I’m a designer and I have managed to create some pretty powerful solutions (even without the support of my contacted friends). > > In my graduate schools days, I had a genius of a professor who was extremely successful (and quite wealthy) – he did nt have to teach, rather he chose to do so - he pointed out to students that companies and products will exist by falling into one of the following categories – They will: > > Fail. (or) > Survive. (or) > Thrive. > > WebDNA has survived. > > I have shared this rather controversial position before privately, but this time I throw it to the public forum and let you guys think about it. > > WebDNA will never thrive as long as Php and MySQL is available for free –snip Hi David, I don't know if you realize it, but you made the case of exactly why WebDNA will thrive, then you go on to say it won't. ;-) This subject, of course, has been the longest debate of the list to date... but the fact is that we've pretty much nullified the "PHP is free" argument. A PHP solution, in my opinion will always cost more than a webdna solution.. especially now. The cost of WebDNA is trivial at this point when you consider everything. PHP is free? Hmmm, tell that to programmer that you are paying. Tell that to the database company, or the "solution" that you choose to use with it. Labor cost for a developer, or the time it takes to "build stuff" drowns any perceived intial cost of the product... especially now. So, though there will always be plusses and minuses of different solutions, I generally disagree... I think Christophe said it best: "Imagine you have two ways to reach the top of a mountain, a quick and comfortable cable car for 10 dollars and 15 minutes, or a long, winding mountain pathway, free, but a rough lengthy walk" (which would you choose) Anyway, I find it suprising that we are still having discussions like this. Everybody say it with me... WebDNA Has Been Rescued. WebDNA is back on it's way Up. :-) I say, lets just finally realize this and focus on making cool stuff with it. Donovan (getting back to late night WebDNA programming on a Saturday night) -- Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 ---------------------------------------------- VP WebDNA Software Corporation 16192 Coastal Highway Lewes, DE 19958
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Meyers, David E. wrote: > Strategy? Think marketing and business not tech… > > I have been a WebDNA fan since I bought the original plug-in for 5 grand over ten years ago. I have no where near the programming and “tech” ability of those that I see commenting on the
Talk Lists – in fact, half of the
Talk List comments are greek to me. I continue to contract out to some true WebDNA experts that have been with the software for years. I will share the observations that I shared with Smith Micro – who I feel we all agree mismanaged and had little care for supporting WebDNA. > > As stated by Olin - Creating, managing, extending, modifying,? searching and editing databases is about as easy as it gets. Bottom line – it is VERY simple and VERY powerful… Hell, I’m a designer and I have managed to create some pretty powerful solutions (even without the support of my contacted friends). > > In my graduate schools days, I had a genius of a professor who was extremely successful (and quite wealthy) – he did nt have to teach, rather he chose to do so - he pointed out to students that companies and products will exist by falling into one of the following categories – They will: > > Fail. (or) > Survive. (or) > Thrive. > > WebDNA has survived. > > I have shared this rather controversial position before privately, but this time I throw it to the public forum and let you guys think about it. > > WebDNA will never thrive as long as Php and MySQL is available for free –snip Hi David, I don't know if you realize it, but you made the case of exactly why WebDNA will thrive, then you go on to say it won't. ;-) This subject, of course, has been the longest debate of the list to date... but the fact is that we've pretty much nullified the "PHP is free" argument. A PHP solution, in my opinion will always cost more than a webdna solution.. especially now. The cost of WebDNA is trivial at this point when you consider everything. PHP is free? Hmmm, tell that to programmer that you are paying. Tell that to the database company, or the "solution" that you choose to use with it. Labor cost for a developer, or the time it takes to "build stuff" drowns any perceived intial cost of the product... especially now. So, though there will always be plusses and minuses of different solutions, I generally disagree... I think Christophe said it best: "Imagine you have two ways to reach the top of a mountain, a quick and comfortable cable car for 10 dollars and 15 minutes, or a long, winding mountain pathway, free, but a rough lengthy walk" (which would you choose) Anyway, I find it suprising that we are still having discussions like this. Everybody say it with me... WebDNA Has Been Rescued. WebDNA is back on it's way Up. :-) I say, lets just finally realize this and focus on making cool stuff with it. Donovan (getting back to late night WebDNA programming on a Saturday night) -- Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 ---------------------------------------------- VP WebDNA Software Corporation 16192 Coastal Highway Lewes, DE 19958
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