Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy?

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texte = > None of these schools teach WebDNA - they all teach php > for dynamic solutions. I actually proposed a class using > WebDNA and it was shot down because of its "rarity". That's interesting. I proposed the same thing here in Cebu and they ALL wanted it! Of course I couldn't teach it everywhere, and WebDNA was not supporting me any more at the time so I couldn't proceed the way I wanted to back then either. Nevertheless it is interesting to see the difference in attitudes between the schools in this country and the one you're familiar with in the USA. > The problem as I see it is that we need a wider install > base. An excellent way to accomplish this would be to make a deal with cPanel and get them to include it in their hosting server packages -- and then you'll get unbelievably HUGE exposure for WebDNA! Of course you might have to pay them a lot upfront before they will agree to such an arrangement, but you won't know until you try. cPanel is the favorite and most widely used control panel in the hosting industry: > With more than 10.000 installations, cPanel provides > more than one million end users the ability to quickly > install dozens of the leading open source content > management systems into their web space. cPanel already include some pre-installed CGI's but there's always room for one more, or maybe WebDNA can replace the existing CGI's in the cPanel package ... ? Here's a list of the scripts that Fantastico (included with cPanel) can install automatically on a cPanel-based host: Blogs: b2evolution Nucleus pMachine Free WordPress Portals/CMS: Drupal Geeklog Mambo Open Source PHP-Nuke phpWCMS phpWebSite Post-Nuke Siteframe Typo3 Xoops E-Commerce: CubeCart OS Commerce Zen Cart Site Builder: Soholaunch Pro Edition Customer Support: Crafty Syntax Live Help Help Center Live osTicket PHP Support Tickets Support Logic Helpdesk Support Services Manager Discussion Boards: phpBB2 SMF FAQ: FAQMasterFlex Guestbooks: ViPER Guestbook Image Galleries: 4images Gallery Coppermine Photo Gallery Gallery Mailing List: PHPlist Polls and Surveys: Advanced Poll phpESP PHPSurveyor Project Management: PHProjekt dotProject Wiki: PhpWiki TikiWiki Other Scripts: Dew-NewPHPLinks Moodle Noah's Classifieds Open-Realty phpAdsNew PHPAuction phpCOIN phpFormGenerator WebCalendar http://www.hostedtoday.com/fantastico.htm Most of these run under PHP/MySQL and some run under PERL, both of which are installed on all cPanel servers by default. But just look at the all these pre-built feature-rich solutions that can be used immediately on any website and hosting service that runs cPanel! Does WebDNA have a place on this list? What approach should WebDNA take to fit into this environment? I think these are the big question here ... Sincerely, Ken Grome Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Tim Benson 2008)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Govinda 2008)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("stephen" 2008)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Thierry Almy 2008)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi " 2008)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Jesse Proudman 2008)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  10. RE: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("Olin Lagon" 2008)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2008)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  14. RE: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("Meyers, David E." 2008)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Terry Wilson 2008)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Bob Minor 2008)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("Dan Strong" 2008)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Bob Minor 2008)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Terry Wilson 2008)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Patrick McCormick 2008)
  27. RE: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("Terry Nair" 2008)
  28. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Patrick McCormick 2008)
  29. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2008)
  30. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  31. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  32. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Bob Minor 2008)
  33. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  34. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  35. RE: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("Meyers, David E." 2008)
  36. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  37. RE: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("Olin Lagon" 2008)
  38. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Colin Sidwell 2008)
  39. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2008)
  40. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Colin Sidwell 2008)
  41. Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  42. [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? ("Olin Lagon" 2008)
> None of these schools teach WebDNA - they all teach php > for dynamic solutions. I actually proposed a class using > WebDNA and it was shot down because of its "rarity". That's interesting. I proposed the same thing here in Cebu and they ALL wanted it! Of course I couldn't teach it everywhere, and WebDNA was not supporting me any more at the time so I couldn't proceed the way I wanted to back then either. Nevertheless it is interesting to see the difference in attitudes between the schools in this country and the one you're familiar with in the USA. > The problem as I see it is that we need a wider install > base. An excellent way to accomplish this would be to make a deal with cPanel and get them to include it in their hosting server packages -- and then you'll get unbelievably HUGE exposure for WebDNA! Of course you might have to pay them a lot upfront before they will agree to such an arrangement, but you won't know until you try. cPanel is the favorite and most widely used control panel in the hosting industry: > With more than 10.000 installations, cPanel provides > more than one million end users the ability to quickly > install dozens of the leading open source content > management systems into their web space. cPanel already include some pre-installed CGI's but there's always room for one more, or maybe WebDNA can replace the existing CGI's in the cPanel package ... ? Here's a list of the scripts that Fantastico (included with cPanel) can install automatically on a cPanel-based host: Blogs: b2evolution Nucleus pMachine Free WordPress Portals/CMS: Drupal Geeklog Mambo Open Source PHP-Nuke phpWCMS phpWebSite Post-Nuke Siteframe Typo3 Xoops E-Commerce: CubeCart OS Commerce Zen Cart Site Builder: Soholaunch Pro Edition Customer Support: Crafty Syntax Live Help Help Center Live osTicket PHP Support Tickets Support Logic Helpdesk Support Services Manager Discussion Boards: phpBB2 SMF FAQ: FAQMasterFlex Guestbooks: ViPER Guestbook Image Galleries: 4images Gallery Coppermine Photo Gallery Gallery Mailing List: PHPlist Polls and Surveys: Advanced Poll phpESP PHPSurveyor Project Management: PHProjekt dotProject Wiki: PhpWiki TikiWiki Other Scripts: Dew-NewPHPLinks Moodle Noah's Classifieds Open-Realty phpAdsNew PHPAuction phpCOIN phpFormGenerator WebCalendar http://www.hostedtoday.com/fantastico.htm Most of these run under PHP/MySQL and some run under PERL, both of which are installed on all cPanel servers by default. But just look at the all these pre-built feature-rich solutions that can be used immediately on any website and hosting service that runs cPanel! Does WebDNA have a place on this list? What approach should WebDNA take to fit into this environment? I think these are the big question here ... Sincerely, Ken Grome Kenneth Grome

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